Comments Thread For: Wilder's Manager: Povetkin Fight is Off, Not Postponed - Off!

[Ray*]

Who can blame Team Wilder? First Povetkin took a drug designed for a heart condition, then he tested negative on 3 different occasions then comes back to test positive later on!!! No one else to blame here but the drug mule/cheat.

[Sledgeweather17]

but from what I read and understand, the substance was legal last year (5 months ago) and only added to the banned list this year, and that substance can stay in your system for a year after the last time you took it and they only found trace elements that goes with his story that he took it last year when it was legal.

So i think theirs a grey area their.


but fuck pvetkin non the less just trying to see it from all angles.

No you don't think there's a grey area, you're lying through your teeth and doing damage control.

Know how I know that? It's because you intentionally omitted the fact that Povetkin tested clean three times before he got the negative, which proves that this is not left over ped from last year.

[Sledgeweather17]

I can't blame Wilder's manager for taking that stance. In fact its odder that the WBC hasn't taken a stronger stance with their "Clean Boxing" angle they're trying to push. Seems like you wanna go hard with this decision, not play it out or pretend to play it out whatever the case is. Povetkin got popped. Whatever the circumstances don't really matter, or shouldn't matter, as to this fight & his mandatory status. Fight should be canceled & mandatory position lost. Give the mandatory to Pulev or someone else.



Why is DiBella celebrating? He just lost whatever his cut was of the $5M or whatever Wilder was getting is & has no promoter ties to Wilder that I'm aware of so there is no guarantee he'll be promoting his future fights. Or can someone correct me about DiBella's & Wilder's relationship?

How do you know it's Deas's stance? He said 'the fight got cancelled', not 'we cancelled the fight'.

[Sledgeweather17]

When he fought Perez, it was legal. And there was supposedly only a trace amount in his system. Not like he was a fully blown cheat. Try getting your facts straight.



Oh this is funny. So, somehow in your fairyland world, anyone smart enough to realize the drug hasn't even been tested fully for longevity in the system, and realize it was just a trace amount anyway... SOMEHOW they need their bu tt kicked. Wow, the density from your end is deep today there friend. Get mad the fight is off. Fine. Going full blown wacko is just ridiculous. Take a chill pill and relax. Geez



^^^^^^ This. Wilder Corporation is celebrating big time right now. All-night party... make that all-week party.



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other way around... the "positive" test has such barely low trace levels if they kept testing he would probably show clean again

unless they took subsequent tests im not aware of??



What you naysayers refuse to accept is that this is new territory. The manufacturer themselves said they don't yet know how long trace amounts will stay in the system, nor do they know exactly how it effects all users. You can argue til the cows come home. Won't change anything.



WE aren't the ones 'making up our minds'. Again, the manufacturer says they cannot yet make a statement with any certainty as to WHEN trace elements fully leave the body of the user. And Povetkin's last test definitely falls into the 'trace elements found' category. IMO, until they can define the full life of the drug in the body, the rules should not be zero tolerance.

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Bottom line: The drug needs more research, and Wilder dodged a bullet. And he knows that well. I guarantee he sleeps much better tonight than he has in months.

Lololol! Nice try, but you fail!

Povetkin already tested clean three times on three different samples, and then tested positive.

Unleass you expect us to believe that this drug magically disappears and appears when it wants to, then obviously Povetkin is doping.

This aint a case of left over trace elements from last year, and your attempt to push such an agenda speaks highly of either your stupidity, or your underestimation of human intelligence, because no reasonable human would believe such nonsense.

In light of the evidence (three clean samples before the fourth unclean one), the only explanations that make common and scientific sense are that Povetkin doped after the third test, either tried to micro dope or macro doped and then tried to flush it out with various methods but couldn't completely flush it out.

And if you continue to try and push your crappy agenda, you might want to begin by explaining the three clean samples first.

[damned1974]

One would think this drug would be rampid in USA with all the diabetes and heart conditions, but good ole mother Russia's athletes are being popped left and right...a list of nearly 100 athletes-that's crazy. I think drug testing needs to be severe on fighters...interesting to see how many more Eastern Block fighters get popped for something.

[Sledgeweather17]

There's a conspiracy going on, meldonium was clearly taken off the market to hurt the Russian image.

They banned a substance that has NO PROVEN athletic advantage, that takes a bunch of time to dissappear from a person's system and that sells very well over the counter in Russia.

This entire meldonium bs has more to do with politics than anything else

fat corrupt yanks are probably pulling the strings behind this, as part of the whole Cold War 2.0 crap

Anyway, the Bumzquad is benefitting from this whole debacle

now Windmiller can safely go back to fighting overmatched bums

that glass chin is safe for now

So a drug that expands the veins and increases oxygen intake and blood flow gives no athletic advantages at all?

I mean, you're telling us that this drug can't possibly increase an athletes stamina both during training and on fight night? That it won't delay fatigue despite it giving the guy that much oxygen intake and expanding his veins and speeding up his blood flow?

Because if that's true than Mickey Mouse and Ninja Turtles must be real too.

[vitali1999]

Fixed it for you.

You must have forgot Lemiex, or even Wade he was undefeated and his number 1 Challenger, at least ggg fights his number 1 challengers and he has 3 belts so he's always doing it. How many 1 challengers has wilder fought. 0

[damned1974]

You must have forgot Lemiex, or even Wade he was undefeated and his number 1 Challenger, at least ggg fights his number 1 challengers and he has 3 belts so he's always doing it. How many 1 challengers has wilder fought. 0

Povetkin didn't give him a chance-the Russian was too busy takin drugs than focusing on fighting clean in his 2nd title fight...****in bum.

Povetkin was so damn scared he had to take PEDs to try and get a sneaky advantage-absolutely no confidence in his natural form. Pathetic.

[vitali1999]

His opponent cheated you silly **** gobbler. He's also still young, people were *****ing until he fought Stiverne and then beat his ass. Now everyone is crying again, not his fault that Potvetkin cheated and the rest of the mandatorys in line are dog ****.

Yeah Stiverne, the one good fighter he ever fought in 36 professional bouts. Lame. Also Lame is that Stiverne is the one guy he couldn't knock out. Gee I wonder why. Could it be because Stiverne is the only fighter that wasn't a BUM ? You guessed it. You get a candy little boy.

[Cinci Champ]

but from what I read and understand, the substance was legal last year (5 months ago) and only added to the banned list this year, and that substance can stay in your system for a year after the last time you took it and they only found trace elements that goes with his story that he took it last year when it was legal.

So i think theirs a grey area their.


but fuck pvetkin non the less just trying to see it from all angles.

except fact he took multiple tests before his failed test where he passed. kinda kills that excuse