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  • Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
    There is nothing su****ious because there was no PED usage. Taking an IV is not indicative of PED usage. And both before and after samples returned negative. If there was a positive, then you can draw su****ion about the IV. But unfortunately, this is not the case.

    Next, do you know how much 750 ml is physically? That is a small amount. 750 ml is equivalent to close to 0.2 of a gallon (20% of 1 gallon). Or 25 ounces. It's not much, but enough to help someone with dehydration versus using a mere 50 ml.
    you are so wrong.

    the reason USADA DCO said he was dehydrated was that Floyd can't piss enough urine needed for the test.

    the before sample was not enough so it was mixed with the after sample.

    you seemed to suggest that the before and the after IV urine sample were tested separately and comeback negative is wrong.

    IV is also known to masked peds if floyd was not dehydrated then the IV purpose was not for rehydration but to masked peds.

    the result dame back negative because that was what the IV's sole intent and purpose to mask the PEDs.

    the IV did what it had to do, make the result negative, that is what IV is also know for.

    750 ml of IV solution in 15 inutes is never for rehydration.

    Floyd was not dehydrated in the first place.

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    • Originally posted by robertzimmerman View Post
      I really don't want to debate this any longer, but I don't want to seem rude and ignore you.

      Again, I think the fact that he needed it in the first place was highly su****ious.

      We'll have to agree to disagree.

      Please don't quote me, because I've nothing else to add.

      Nice debating with you.

      I'll catch you on another thread.

      This poster seems to think the IV is a performance enhancer.

      No point discussing anything with this guy.

      See ya later.

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      • Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
        Who knows? It's anyone's guess just like it's anyone's guess as to the extent of Pacquiao's injury before the fight.

        But there is nothing su****ious about it. If you believe that he wasn't dehydrated, then so be it. But at the very least, he must have felt '****ty' to take one. Just like Pacquiao must have felt some type of way to take kinda strong medications in the form of Lidocaine and Toradol. Many fighters, along with those in MMA, state that after taking an IV -- you quickly feel much better than by hydrating orally.
        it's anybody's guess? then why are you contesting that they guessed it was su****ious?

        just like genius floyd fans su****ion that Pac was not injured.

        Floyd IV not su****ious, Pac injury su****ious.

        genius floyd fans logic.

        it's anybody's guess you say LOL

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        • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
          This poster seems to think the IV is a performance enhancer.

          No point discussing anything with this guy.

          See ya later.

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          • Originally posted by Rath View Post
            you are so wrong.

            the reason USADA DCO said he was dehydrated was that Floyd can't piss enough urine needed for the test.

            the before sample was not enough so it was mixed with the after sample.

            you seemed to suggest that the before and the after IV urine sample were tested separately and comeback negative is wrong.

            IV is also known to masked peds if floyd was not dehydrated then the IV purpose was not for rehydration but to masked peds.

            the result dame back negative because that was what the IV's sole intent and purpose to mask the PEDs.

            the IV did what it had to do, make the result negative, that is what IV is also know for.

            750 ml of IV solution in 15 inutes is never for rehydration.

            Floyd was not dehydrated in the first place.
            A sample was taken before and after -- this came back negative. It doesn't matter if they were tested separately. Anything positive would have came out in the test results.

            The fact that the samples came back negative means there was no masking. And what PED exactly could he be masking with saline and vitamins? The testing is very advanced now, so only a fool would try to do such a thing a day before the fight.

            As Victor Conte stated, if Floyd was indeed cheating, it wouldn't be through using an IV. It would be through something. That something else though you have yet to even discover.

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            • Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
              A sample was taken before and after -- this came back negative. It doesn't matter if they were tested separately. Anything positive would have came out in the test results.

              The fact that the samples came back negative means there was no masking. And what PED exactly could he be masking with saline and vitamins? The testing is very advanced now, so only a fool would try to do such a thing a day before the fight.

              As Victor Conte stated, if Floyd was indeed cheating, it wouldn't be through using an IV. It would be through something. That something else though you have yet to even discover.
              so if the test came back positive there was masking?

              genius floyd fan and his logic.

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              • Originally posted by Rath View Post
                so if the test came back positive there was masking?

                genius floyd fan and his logic.
                No, if the test came back positive then he was using PEDs. Or at the very least, a legit accusation could be made that he was using and even trying to mask via the IV.

                However, this is not the case as not only the before and after came back negative, but all other test results came back negative as well. He also tested the next day -- blood and urine, both negative.

                Rath and his logic.

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                • Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
                  No, if the test came back positive then he was using PEDs. Or at the very least, a legit accusation could be made that he was using and even trying to mask via the IV.

                  However, this is not the case as not only the before and after came back negative, but all other test results came back negative as well. He also tested the next day -- blood and urine, both negative.

                  Rath and his logic.
                  if the test came back negative = no masking

                  if the test came back positive = no masking

                  when will you know there were masking = if there were no test that come back at all LOL

                  genius floyd fans logic.

                  Two things administering IV is known for

                  1. rehydration

                  2. PED masking

                  Floyd was not dehydrated and therefore the IV was administered not to rehydrated but to mask PEDs.

                  750 ml in 15 minutes is not intended for rehydration.

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                  • Originally posted by Rath View Post
                    if the test came back negative = no masking

                    if the test came back positive = no masking

                    when will you know there were masking = if there were no test that come back at all LOL

                    genius floyd fans logic.

                    Two things administering IV is known for

                    1. rehydration

                    2. PED masking

                    Floyd was not dehydrated and therefore the IV was administered not to rehydrated but to mask PEDs.

                    750 ml in 15 minutes is not intended for rehydration.
                    Did you even read?

                    I said if there was a positive result, an accusation or valid claim could be made that he was masking. But unfortunately, a positive did not occur. A sample was taken BEFORE and AFTER -- this returned negative. Sorry

                    You say PED masking. What PED could be masked by SALINE and VITAMINS that wouldn't be caught by a WADA-accredited lab within 24 hours?

                    I'll wait.

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                    • Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
                      Did you even read?

                      I said if there was a positive result, an accusation or valid claim could be made that he was masking. But unfortunately, a positive did not occur. A sample was taken BEFORE and AFTER -- this returned negative. Sorry

                      You say PED masking. What PED could be masked by SALINE and VITAMINS that wouldn't be caught by a WADA-accredited lab within 24 hours?

                      I'll wait.
                      first you have to prove that the content of the IV bag was saline solution and viatmin C

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