Why do people say floyd was "caught" doing peds?

[radioraheem]

If you're talking about the haters, sure, they'll jump on anything they can to criticise or discredit him in anyway. But what about the other boxing fans?

Floyd's actions look highly su****ious.

We know he doesn't struggle to make weight.

We know he doesn't dehydrate himself like someone like Canelo does and then rehydrates by large amounts.

We know what his 30 day weight was.

We know what he weighed in at.

We know he doesn't train after the weigh-in.

We know those same figures were replicated in other fights, including against Berto shortly afterwards.

If you take into account the above information, you have to be perplexed at why he needed 750ml of saline and vitamins in his home.

It doesn't add up.

Highly su****ious of what? Taking PEDs? Haha. They took a sample of his urine before the IV and after the IV. Both samples were negative.

Even Victor Conte doesn't believe it's su****ious. He believes if Mayweather was in fact cheating by taking PEDs, it wasn't through the IV thing. He believes Mayweather is doing something else entirely.

But up til today, hardly any of you can even repeat what he believes Mayweather is doing. And if you did -- it would destroy the IV conspiracy of PED usage.

[robertzimmerman]

You aren't truly calling a spade a spade, and that is why I posed the question.

There was no clear signs that he was injured pre-fight. And if they were, those signs were well hidden. There were no signs as to why he would need Lidocaine, Toradol, etc. And this is not to say he didn't have a legit injury. Just that to the eye -- nothing was obvious, even during the fight.

I'd like to know these obvious or clear signs that he was injured pre-fight. Signs that everyone else was oblivious of before fight night.

Those are my honest opinions.

I didn't hear anything before the fight at all.

I was perplexed during the fight though, which again, is why I posted a thread.

The injury seemed legit to me, and I think it was hidden because he didn't want to withdraw late and miss out on a huge pay day.

[robertzimmerman]

Highly su****ious of what? Taking PEDs? Haha. They took a sample of his urine before the IV and after the IV. Both samples were negative.

Even Victor Conte doesn't believe it's su****ious. He believes if Mayweather was in fact cheating by taking PEDs, it wasn't through the IV thing. He believes Mayweather is doing something else entirely.

But up til today, hardly any of you can even repeat what he believes Mayweather is doing. And if you did -- it would destroy the IV conspiracy of PED usage.

I think it's highly su****ious that Floyd was so dehydrated after the weigh-in, he needed 750ml of saline and vitamins.

I've given you valid reasons as to why I believe that.

He only had to lose 3 pounds in 30 days.

He weighed in at 146.

Why was he so dehydrated?

Was he also severely dehydrated after the Berto weigh-in?

[radioraheem]

I think it's highly su****ious that Floyd was so dehydrated after the weigh-in, he needed 750ml of saline and vitamins.

I've given you valid reasons as to why I believe that.

He only had to lose 3 pounds in 30 days.

He weighed in at 146.

Why was he so dehydrated?

Was he also severely dehydrated after the Berto weigh-in?

Who knows? It's anyone's guess just like it's anyone's guess as to the extent of Pacquiao's injury before the fight.

But there is nothing su****ious about it. If you believe that he wasn't dehydrated, then so be it. But at the very least, he must have felt '****ty' to take one. Just like Pacquiao must have felt some type of way to take kinda strong medications in the form of Lidocaine and Toradol. Many fighters, along with those in MMA, state that after taking an IV -- you quickly feel much better than by hydrating orally.

[robertzimmerman]

Who knows? It's anyone's guess just like it's anyone's guess as to the extent of Pacquiao's injury before the fight.

But there is nothing su****ious about it. If you believe that he wasn't dehydrated, then so be it. But at the very least, he must have felt '****ty' to take one. Just like Pacquiao must have felt some type of way to take kinda strong medications in the form of Lidocaine and Toradol. Many fighters, along with those in MMA, state that after taking an IV -- you quickly feel much better than by hydrating orally.

What do you mean there was nothing su****ious about it?

You're kidding yourself.

Being dehydrated is one thing, but being so severely dehydrated that you require an IV administered at your home, is another thing altogether.

Come on.

Why do you think he was so dehydrated he needed that IV?

Again, his 30 day weight for Berto was almost the same, and he weighed in at a pound under the limit.

It doesn't add up.

If you don't think he cheated, that's fine. But if you're saying his actions didn't raise any su****ion of any wrongdoing, then you're just burying your head in the sand.

[radioraheem]

What do you mean there was nothing su****ious about it?

You're kidding yourself.

Being dehydrated is one thing, but being so severely dehydrated that you require an IV administered at your home, is another thing altogether.

Come on.

Why do you think he was so dehydrated he needed that IV?

Again, his 30 day weight for Berto was almost the same, and he weighed in at a pound under the limit.

It doesn't add up.

If you don't think he cheated, that's fine. But if you're saying his actions didn't raise any su****ion of any wrongdoing, then you're just burying your head in the sand.

There is nothing su****ious about it because his samples came back positive. Again, they took samples before the IV and after the IV infusion. All samples came back negative.

Next, one of the most notorious former PED peddlers doesn't believe there is anything su****ious about it either, and doesn't think Mayweather was doing any PEDs in preparation for the fight. And he went on record saying that if Mayweather was doing something -- it was something else. But that something else you have no idea what it would be! And it is far more logical and doable without the risk of taking something so close to the fight!

Again, he must have felt 'bad' to have taken one. Also keep in mind, this was the biggest fight in boxing history. Both fighters were going through a great deal of stress and nervousness. The magnitude of the fight alone would have taken a toll on them physically.

[robertzimmerman]

There is nothing su****ious about it because his samples came back positive. Again, they took samples before the IV and after the IV infusion. All samples came back negative.

Next, one of the most notorious former PED peddlers doesn't believe there is anything su****ious about it either, and doesn't think Mayweather was doing any PEDs in preparation for the fight. And he went on record saying that if Mayweather was doing something -- it was something else. But that something else you have no idea what it would be! And it is far more logical and doable without the risk of taking something so close to the fight!

Again, he must have felt 'bad' to have taken one. Also keep in mind, this was the biggest fight in boxing history. Both fighters were going through a great deal of stress and nervousness. The magnitude of the fight alone would have taken a toll on them physically.

There was nothing su****ious because the tests came back negative?

Seriously?

How about the fact that he required an IV of 750ml in the first place?

How the hell was that not su****ious?

There's no logical reason for him being so dehydrated that that was the best course of action of take.

It's nonsense.


Anyway, nice talking to you.

I'm going to leave it now. I may come back and read some more comments at a later date, but I've exhausted the topic so I'm going to find something else.

Cheers.

[Combat Talk Radio]

What was Broner's weight fight night? it wasn't 3 pounds above the weigh in assh0le. He probably had already cut 10 or 15 pounds already. Floyd did not have any signs of dehydration when he was examinated by doctors at the weigh in and all the basic signals were ok. He even signed that he wasn't feeling dehydration or anything.

USADA informed the TUE 21 days after it happened? why? so weird.

DELUSIONAL

All the cussing and name calling in the world doesn't change the fact that you're wrong and overly su****ious for no valid reason.

USADA was in the right. NSAC accepted the TUE under their rules, which was in the right.

Floyd schooled Manny shortly afterwards.

Those are facts. You need to move on. It's been a year.

[radioraheem]

There was nothing su****ious because the tests came back negative?

Seriously?

How about the fact that he required an IV of 750ml in the first place?

How the hell was that not su****ious?

There's no logical reason for him being so dehydrated that that was the best course of action of take.

It's nonsense.

Anyway, nice talking to you.

I'm going to leave it now. I may come back and read some more comments at a later date, but I've exhausted the topic so I'm going to find something else.

Cheers.

There is nothing su****ious because there was no PED usage. Taking an IV is not indicative of PED usage. And both before and after samples returned negative. If there was a positive, then you can draw su****ion about the IV. But unfortunately, this is not the case.

Next, do you know how much 750 ml is physically? That is a small amount. 750 ml is equivalent to close to 0.2 of a gallon (20% of 1 gallon). Or 25 ounces. It's not much, but enough to help someone with dehydration versus using a mere 50 ml.

[robertzimmerman]

There is nothing su****ious because there was no PED usage. Taking an IV is not indicative of PED usage. And both before and after samples returned negative. If there was a positive, then you can draw su****ion about the IV. But unfortunately, this is not the case.

Next, do you know how much 750 ml is physically? That is a small amount. 750 ml is equivalent to close to 0.2 of a gallon (20% of 1 gallon). Or 25 ounces. It's not much, but enough to help someone with dehydration versus using a mere 50 ml.

I really don't want to debate this any longer, but I don't want to seem rude and ignore you.

Again, I think the fact that he needed it in the first place was highly su****ious.

We'll have to agree to disagree.

Please don't quote me, because I've nothing else to add.

Nice debating with you.

I'll catch you on another thread.