Why do people say floyd was "caught" doing peds?

[travestyny]

Jeez, look at the desperation.

You've had to resort to pulling me on a typo.

Ha!


I'm not even asking you to PROVE anything you clown.

I'm merely asking for your OPINION, an opinion that you refuse to give on a boxing forum.

What does that say about you?


This is how simple it is:

If you said to me "robertzimmerman, tell me why you think Floyd's actions look su****ious?"

I would reply with:

"Because of the following...."

I would answer you straight out.

Yet when I ask you to give me your opinion on why you think he was dehydrated, you refuse and get all defensive.


What's wrong with you?

I don't want concrete proof.

We're merely boxing fans on a forum, not lawyers in a court of law.


Just please tell me why you think that he was so dehydrated, that he required the IV?


Now if you can't or won't answer, then please refrain from replying to me.


Thank you.

I doubt it's a typo if you did it twice in a row. Stop being so sensitive. I responded to your request.

[robertzimmerman]

Sure I believe that it's possible. He could have experienced chronic dehydration.

His 30 day weight was 150.5. That was after a month of training. That means he started out at least at 151, if not higher. He was down to 146 for the weigh in.

"Symptoms of chronic dehydration will begin to appear when the body loses as little as two to three percent of total body water."

http://www.waterbenefitshealth.com/symptoms-of-chronic-dehydration.html

He's a gym rat. Sweating can cause dehydration. It's very simple.

Some symptoms of chronic dehydration:

• bladder or kidney problems -- He stated his urine was extremely dark
• Joint pain or stiffness -- Not sure. He mentioned some injuries going in.
• asthma and allergies -- He wrote in "allergies" on his medical check-list, did he not?
• acid-alkaline imbalance-- is this why his urine was dark?

Does chronic dehydration fit into WADA's protocol for a TUE? Yes.

4.1 An Athlete may be granted a TUE if (and only if) he/she can show, by a
balance of probability, that each of the following conditions is met:
a. The Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method in question is needed to treat an acute or chronic medical condition, such that the Athlete would experience a significant impairment to health if the Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method were to be withheld.

https://wada-main-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/resources/files/wada-2016-istue-final-en_0.pdf

Did he experience chronic dehydration? It's possible. Could it have cause a significant impairment to his health in the face of enduring a 12 round boxing match? Possibly, but isn't it better to have the medical records?

Wouldn't oral rehydration be enough?

Depends on what his doctors found, doesn't it?

WADA says: "Oral rehydration is usually highly effective, yet there may be cases such as documented hyponatremia where hypertonic saline by IV is more effective than oral treatments."

https://wada-main-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/resources/files/WADA_Medical_info_IV_infusions_3.0_EN.pdf

Did he experience hyponatremia or any other case? Possible. I'd need his medical records.

Any more questions?

Thank you very much for the above post.

That's all I wanted from you.

I respectfully read it, and I respect your opinion.


The only thing I'd add, is that those figures were identical to the figures from many of his other fights, including the Berto fight just 3-4 months later.

[robertzimmerman]

It is relevant to the same points you are bringing up. Because it is very similar. If you believe that Pacquaio had legitimate injuries despite not showing signs before and after the fight, then all your points regarding Mayweather are void and biased.

In what way are they biased or void?

It seems as though you're trying to bait me into a Floyd vs Manny argument.

I'm a bigger fan of Floyd's than I am of Manny's.

[travestyny]

Thank you very much for the above post.

That's all I wanted from you.

I respectfully read it, and I respect your opinion.


The only thing I'd add, is that those figures were identical to the figures from many of his other fights, including the Berto fight just 3-4 months later.

You have a right to your opinion, homes. My apologies if I was disrespectful. Much respect.

[robertzimmerman]

I doubt it's a typo if you did it twice in a row. Stop being so sensitive. I responded to your request.

Do you really want me to an*lyse all of your grammar?

Seriously, that was sad pointing out a typo. And yes, it was a typo, seeing as though I've also correctly spelt the word in one of my responses to you that hasn't been edited.

Anyway, I obviously typed out my response before I read your other one.

Thanks again for the reply, and we'll move on.

[robertzimmerman]

You have a right to your opinion, homes. My apologies if I was disrespectful. Much respect.

No worries mate.

I apologise for the content in my earlier posts.

I was just frustrated because I was just looking for an immediate answer.

I respect you as a poster as you obviously have a lot of knowledge of this great sport.

I'm going to have a break now, but I'll catch you on another thread at some point.

Cheers.

[travestyny]

Do you really want me to an*lyse all of your grammar?

Seriously, that was sad pointing out a typo. And yes, it was a typo, seeing as though I've also correctly spelt the word in one of my responses to you that hasn't been edited.

Anyway, I obviously typed out my response before I read your other one.

Thanks again for the reply, and we'll move on.

It's all good man. Was just ****ing around with you, but from your responses I see ur a really cool dude. Definitely much respect.

[radioraheem]

In what way are they biased or void?

It seems as though you're trying to bait me into a Floyd vs Manny argument.

I'm a bigger fan of Floyd's than I am of Manny's.

No, it just would show your stance regarding the matter. Or whether you really call a spade a spade. If you say (2+2=4) and then I ask you okay if you believe that does (4-2=2)? And you circle around answering the question, it makes me wonder.

[ADP02]

Now you pact@rds dug yourself in a hole with this whole vampire facial conspiracy.
But when the truth about Manny using the same treatment, you start changing your tune.

Well now you have to explain the logic of floyd admittingly explaining the vampire facial to the media as some sort of alibi, the illegal benefits he received from the PRP treatment and the possibility of hgh being detected..........and how your conspiracy can not be applied to Manny use of PRP treatment.


This has the potential to be your greatest conspiracy yet!

Go!

Manny had an injury to his shoulder and got PRP therapy.
Floyd had no injury but had PRP therapy just before the fight.

Manny's is a legit injury and can be confirmed by a renowned surgeon that has done it (PRP therapy) before to athletes such as KOBE while Floyd's excuse appears to be just that, an excuse and again, with a no name doctor, if there even was one. Again, who would be doing what Floyd did just before getting punched in the face? As you can see, there can be side effects.

What happens when you do PRP? They extract blood from you and this can potentially be put back in later. That is not legal. Also, when doing it this way, you can find out by using the same machines what your HT readings are and so on.

Finally, the truth about Manny is that he had it in his pre-fight report. The only reason that we found out about Floyd's was due to side effects and reporters asking "why the shades and hat" .... as I said before, his excuse of why he did what he did does not make sense when you take into account when he did it.



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[robertzimmerman]

No, it just would show your stance regarding the matter. Or whether you really call a spade a spade. If you say (2+2=4) and then I ask you okay if you believe that does (4-2=2)? And you circle around answering the question, it makes me wonder.

My opinions are always honest and they're based on logic.

In my opinion, Manny did injure his shoulder before the fight.

I made a thread on another forum questioning what I thought at the time were bizarre tactics. So when I heard about his shoulder, it made sense to me.

I don't believe that Floyd was dehydrated to the point that he required an IV.

Again, I'm a bigger fan of Floyd's.

That's just how I see things. Those are my honest opinions.