Why do people say floyd was "caught" doing peds?

[robertzimmerman]

Are you slow? That's the same link I posted to you, and I revealed what the damn thing says.

Can you read or what?

Maybe you can read, but you have very low comprehension skills. Now, your homework is to click on that link and read it again, but this time, try to comprehend what you read, ok?

Congratulations. You've officially clowned yourself.

Ha!

Yes, I'm aware of that, but I forgot to type "read it in it's entirety"

I have, and it makes for very interesting reading.


Look at what you've selectively highlighted:

The treatment is administered by qualified medical personnel in an appropriate medical setting.

Ha!

Such as:

A member of Floyd's team administering it in his living room.

Nothing su****ious there then.


Are you going to look logically at why he may have needed that IV?

He was 150 pounds at the 30 day mark.

He weighed in at 146 pounds.

So why was he severely dehydrated to the point where he had to have the IV administered?

It's not a hard question.


Are you telling me that he struggled to take off those 3 pounds in the last 30 days?


Seriously, this is the 3rd time of asking, and all you can say is:

"Ask his physician"

[Dosumpthin]

Al three cards scored it for red corner

You should contact the NSAC and inform them of the illegal usage of white-out.


Floyd still stays 49-0 though. Lol.

[travestyny]

Ha!

Yes, I'm aware of that, but I forgot to type "read it in it's entirety"

I have, and it makes for very interesting reading.


Look at what you've selectively highlighted:



Ha!

Such as:

A member of Floyd's team administering it in his living room.

Nothing su****ious there then.


Are you going to look logically at why he may have needed that IV?

He was 150 pounds at the 30 day mark.

He weighed in at 146 pounds.

So why was he severely dehydrated to the point where he had to have the IV administered?

It's not a hard question.


Are you telling me that he struggled to take off those 3 pounds in the last 30 days?


Seriously, this is the 3rd time of asking, and all you can say is:

"Ask his physician"

1. Yes, it is medical best practice that the physician should deem the area in which the IV is administered to be medically appropriate. The heading is "medical best practice." It's obvious that is medical best practice. What's your point? Is this you admitting that it doesn't have to be an emergency that send you to the hospital like you tried to state? It makes that clear, doesn't it? Admit that you were wrong.

2. Why are you asking me? You have the burden of proof to show he wasn't dehydrated. Have at it. As I told you before, good luck. I can give you the name of a condition that would allow IV rehydration to be more appropriate than oral rehydration. Go look up hyponatremia. If you can prove that Floyd didn't experience that, then we can at least mark that one off of your list. Good luck!

[robertzimmerman]

A TUE is an acronym for the****utic use expemtion.

I don't see the word "emergency" use exemption there. What are you talking about?

You need to do more research before you continue to comment on things you don't know

Okay, those were my words. But anything over WADA's limit should have resulted in either the patient being admitted to a hospital, or cared for under their specific guidelines. But we know that didn't happen.

I'll never be satisfied until I get some logical answers as to what happened.

There's many articles that have been written, and this is one of the better ones:

http://www.boxnation.com/boxing-news...g-trust-usada/

[robertzimmerman]

"If a non-prohibited substance is infused or injected without a concurrent hospital
admission, surgical procedure or clinical investigation; a TUE must be submitted
for this Prohibited Method if more than 50 mL of fluid per a 6-hour period is
infused or injected.
If a Prohibited Substance is administered via IV infusion or injection a TUE
application must be submitted for the Prohibited Substance regardless of
whether the infusion is less than 50 mL or the setting/circumstances under
which it is administered. In situations of medical emergency or clinical time
constraints, a retroactive TUE application is acceptable (ISTUE 2015 article 4.3)."

https://www.usada.org/wp-content/upl...s_infusion.pdf

And........ it tells you right there it's required if there isn't an hospital admission. There goes the medical emergency/hospital admission argument.

Yes, I know.

I wasn't asking literally.

You keep posting the same things.

I'm highlighting your convenient selectivity.

[_Maxi]

Ok smart guy. Tell me ONE TIME that NSAC has ever deemed a fighter to be dehydrated on fight night. Just ONE TIME. Let's see how many fighters have been found to be dehydrated on fight night by the NSAC?

I'll wait...

And if you can't find any, but we can clearly deduce that there were some, what does this tell you?

We'll discuss that after you come back with your information. I'll be waiting, homie.

No, arse. I'm not talking about the fight night examination. I'm talking about the weigh in medical examination in which Floyd was ok. It was posted in the IV long thread.

[robertzimmerman]

This topic has been addressed too many times to count.

Straight from the ISTUE by WADA - the only document that really counts...

"4.3 An Athlete may only be granted retroactive approval for his/her The****utic
Use of a Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method (i.e., a retroactive TUE) if:
a. Emergency treatment or treatment of an acute medical condition was
necessary; or
b. Due to other exceptional circumstances, there was insufficient time or
opportunity for the Athlete to submit, or for the TUEC to consider, an
application for the TUE prior to Sample collection; or
c. The applicable rules required the Athlete (see comment to Article 5.1) or
permitted the Athlete (see Code Article 4.4.5) to apply for a retroactive
TUE; or
[Comment to 4.3(c): Such Athletes are strongly advised to have a medical file
prepared and ready to demonstrate their satisfaction of the TUE conditions set out
at Article 4.1, in case an application for a retroactive TUE is necessary following
Sample collection.]
d. It is agreed, by WADA and by the Anti-Doping Organization to whom the
application for a retroactive TUE is or would be made, that fairness
requires the grant of a retroactive TUE."


These are the facts despite what thomas hauser told you.

The retroactive tue in Floyds case could have fallen under 3 of the 4 scenarios.

Most likely b. Possibly a. Or USADA can simply deem it "fair" to allow for a retroactive application under d.

It's not sufficient.

There's too many unanswered questions.

[travestyny]

No, arse. I'm not talking about the fight night examination. I'm talking about the weigh in medical examination in which Floyd was ok. It was posted in the IV long thread.

That's what I'm referring to also. I have NEVER heard of NSAC diagnosing anyone with dehydration. Either they are very poor at diagnosing it, or they don't give a **** about a fighter being dehydrated. Funny enough, I do recall a few Hauser articles criticizing the NSAC about not caring about their fighters dehydrated states, or something like that. Pointing to the NSAC medical check is useless, bro.

[robertzimmerman]

Why are you still posting the link I gave you? You haven't learned how to read and comprehend that it does not say what you state it says? This is quite embarrassing for you, but you still have a chance to tuck your tail and log out.

As for your question, a physician signed off that he was dehydrated. No one said he couldn't drink water. It's not about the ability to drink water. It's about whether oral rehydration is not a valid option to bring the athlete back to a normal state of health, whether it be due to time constraint or medical condition. If the physician proved that oral rehydration was not suitable for whatever reason, then I suppose you have to try to prove him/her wrong. Good luck without any medical records!

Log out?

Ha!

Embarrassing?

You keep quoting what FLOYD'S physician did.


Why can't you answer me a simple question?

Once again:

Why do YOU think he was so dehydrated that he needed an IV?


These are the facts:

His 30 day weight was 150.5. pounds.

He came in a full pound under the 147 limit.

Yet he was so dehydrated, he needed an IV of 750ml of saline and vitamins, that was administered in his living room?


Let's look at the Berto fight:

His 30 day weight was just under 150 pounds.

Again, he came in a full pound under the limit at 146 pounds.

So did he also require an IV after the Berto weigh-in because he was so dehydrated?


Ha!

Give me an answer that's logical.

He had 30 days to lose only 3 pounds.

He weighed in a full pound under. Yet he was so rehydrated by losing 4 pounds in 30 days (including a pound he didn't need to lose) he required an IV that is against WADA's protocol.


There's no way I'm buying that BS.

Floyd has NEVER had any weight issues or dehydration issues the day after a weigh-in.


Now if you can't give me an answer of what YOU PERSONALLY think happened, then don't bother replying to me.

[robertzimmerman]

Lol.

This is the truth.

Everyone and anyone has offered their opinions to the media on Floyds IV use without having access to any medical records that are kept confidential by law.

Pac fans and mayhaters do the same thing. Offer an opinion on information they do not have access to.

I just tell the pact@rds to email WADA and ask them to reverse the USADA tue.

(Even if WADA did reverse the tue, floyd probably stays 49-0 because it wasn't banned by NSAC. LOL.)

Tell me why you think Floyd was so dehydrated that he required an IV of 750ml of saline and vitamins.

An easy question.

Give me your honest opinion.