Why do people say floyd was "caught" doing peds?

[Furn]

This is USADA explaining why a tue is required for IV use. What was the point of posting the link?

We all know floyd was granted a tue - due to a medical emergency. Just like it states in the link you posted.


.......Legitimate medical indications for IV infusions are well documented and are most commonly associated with medical emergencies (emergency TUE), in-patient care, surgery, or clinical investigations for diagnostic purposes.......


Yep. That means retro active tue for the iv is well within the rules. Did you even bother to read it so you can understand or did you skim over the important parts?


And don't forget to explain to me who "caught" floyd. Thanks.

He was caught by drug testers who walked in on him.

We all get that he was let off. The point is under the rules he couldnt have been.

The IV was in his home, to qualify for a medical emergency the WADA code clearly states it mut be administered in a medical environment. The USADA had no authority to even issue a TUE.

the NSAC have said the TUE was bogus.

"The TUE for Mayweather's IV—and the IV was administered at Floyd's house, not in a medical facility, and wasn't brought to our attention at the time—was totally unacceptable," Bennett said. "I've made it clear to [USADA CEO] Travis Tygart that this should not happen again. We have the sole authority to grant any and all TUEs in the state of Nevada. USADA is a drug-testing agency. USADA should not be granting waivers and exemptions. Not in this state. We are less than pleased that USADA acted the way it did."

USADA are known for letting certain US athletes off.

[QballLobo]

Vampire facials as in Platelet-Rich Plasma (PRP) treatment - the same PRP treatment listed on Mannys prefight form as one of the 5 drugs he was using?

You don't know much either because the fight wasn't cancelled.

Manny listed it as a treatment he was taking. Please let me know, what injury or ailment did Floyd have that he was using PRP therapy?

[ADP02]

It's not a straw man fallacy when the guy said the proper thing to do to find out the truth is do CIR testing. Then when it was found out that CIR testing was done....crickets chirping.

Conte is the one who got check-mated.

Furthermore, an IV of 750ml of saline will do nothing to mask PED's a day later when Mayweather did further blood and urine testing, or are you going to argue like another poster that maybe Floyd had another secret IV waiting for him in the back of the MGM Grand?

Like I told you months ago, you do not need to do it at the MGM Grand since it can be done hours before and still remain masked .....

but that is not even the point. The point is that its the day of the weigh in that Floyd was concerned about not the night of the fight! That test they knew about and I'm sure they were prepared for.

On May 1st, it took them 6+ hours PLUS drinking fluids PLUS an IV to get 90ml of urine from Floyd. That is what is in question.

[ADP02]

Rehydrating orally takes a LOT of time and is not easy because it has to get past your stomach first and bloating can take place, not to mention retention and hunger issues. If your kidneys are already past a point, IVs are considered. Par for the course in hospitals.

This is even more true when you move elevations. Colorado, for example, if you've been living in a valley city/state, you will see brown urine after a day of insufficient intake. Offsetting this requires you drink 2 liters. 2 liters of water has to be drunken over time to avoid risk of poisoning.

Floyd was working harder than he usually did preparing for this fight. It's well known he's a workhorse so it doesn't surprise me he drained himself.

FALSE!!!!

"study shows that just 600ml of water ingested 45 minutes is enough to take an athlete from mildly dehydrated to fully hydrated."

"But here is where the aforementioned ’conditions’ are in play. If you drink water on an empty stomach, it can pass through the stomach into the small intestine and enter your bloodstream within 5 minutes (faster if the water is colder, compared to warm!)."

[Dosumpthin]

He was caught by drug testers who walked in on him.

Proven to be a lie. Thomas hauser started the rumor and had admitted he was wrong. Its the very first post and entire point of this thread. You should've read it first.

How does that make you feel? You now know the truth. Do you feel misled by hauser? Or are you blinded by hatred?

We all get that he was let off. The point is under the rules he couldnt have been.

The IV was in his home, to qualify for a medical emergency the WADA code clearly states it mut be administered in a medical environment. The USADA had no authority to even issue a TUE.

These are the type of logically flawed misinterpetations of the WADA CODE that have plagued the boxing community regarding iv use.

If you don't pay close attention you will be misled.

A "medical emergency" and treatment for a "medical emergency" is not bound by the location of a patient. emt's paramedics and ambulances equiped with medical supplies/equipment are in existence because the rest of the logical world understands patients can be successfully treated without hospital or clinical admission.


But thanks for trying.

The paramedic adminstered the iv and it is within their ability to legally do so.

WADA understands this simple concept but is insightful enough to reminds idiots that their health and treatment takes priority....

....These will be dependent on the clinical situation. However, in case of a medical
emergency, a possible consequence of withholding treatment could result in
serious harm to the health or even death. Therefore, the health and well-being
of the athlete must always remain the priority.
......

https://www.wada-ama.org/en/resources/science-medicine/medical-information-to-support-the-decisions-of-tuecs-intravenous

the NSAC have said the TUE was bogus.

"The TUE for Mayweather's IV—and the IV was administered at Floyd's house, not in a medical facility, and wasn't brought to our attention at the time—was totally unacceptable," Bennett said. "I've made it clear to [USADA CEO] Travis Tygart that this should not happen again. We have the sole authority to grant any and all TUEs in the state of Nevada. USADA is a drug-testing agency. USADA should not be granting waivers and exemptions. Not in this state. We are less than pleased that USADA acted the way it did."

USADA are known for letting certain US athletes off.

NSAC RULES doesn't ban IV method therefore does not require a TUE.

FLOYD applied for and USADA issued a TUE in order to be in compliance with WADA RULES.

NSAC has gone on record stating floyd has done nothing wrong.


The end. Thanks for trying.

[Dosumpthin]

Manny listed it as a treatment he was taking. Please let me know, what injury or ailment did Floyd have that he was using PRP therapy?

PRP is not banned. Controversial but not banned anymore as per WADA code.

I ONLY pointed out the hypocrisy of pact@rds complaining of a PRP vampire facial but over looking PRP treatment for a NON DISCLOSED injury by pedquiao. The same injury that team Pac has been proven to lying about when how and the treatment performed and is facing a mutiple lawsuits for.

[ADP02]

PRP is not banned. Controversial but not banned anymore as per WADA code.

I ONLY pointed out the hypocrisy of pact@rds complaining of a PRP vampire facial but over looking PRP treatment for a NON DISCLOSED injury by pedquiao. The same injury that team Pac has been proven to lying about when how and the treatment performed and is facing a mutiple lawsuits for.

That is not the point.

Floyd was covering his face with shades and a hat. Then when asked why, Floyd says that before he starts training he decides to do PRP. For an injury? Nope. The reason does not make sense at that point in time. He can damage that area with one punch to the face.

Similarly crazy, Floyd says that he weighs relatively the same for the last 10 years so that is one advantage he has over others who need to drain themselves then rehydrate 15-20lbs ........ but needs an IV. Crazy stuff!




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[Ruthless One]

So you're agreeing with the idea that Floyd had a medical emergency.

"A medical emergency is any medical problem that could cause death or permanent injury if not treated."

You also believe that this medical emergency was due to dehydration. Out of the classifications of dehydration, severe dehydration is the one considered a medical emergency.

"Severe dehydration (loss of 10-15% of body fluids) is a life-threatening condition that requires immediate medical care."

So you truly believe that Floyd had that?

Signs and symptoms of severe dehydration:

-Severely decreased urine output or no urine output. The urine, if any, produced is concentrated and a deep yellow or amber color.
-Dizziness or lightheadedness that does not allow the person to stand or walk normally.
-Blood pressure drops when the person tries to stand after lying down (low blood pressure or orthostatic hypotension)
-Rapid heart rate
-Fever
-Poor skin elasticity (skin slowly sinks back to its normal position when pinched)
-Sunken eyes
-Lethargy, confusion, or coma
-Seizure
-Shock

I don't know about his vital sign readings like blood pressure, but what about his appearance? Did he have sunken eyes? Did he look confused? Did he look like this?



That's a guy with true severe dehydration.

Floyd at weigh-in:


Yeah, ok.

[Dosumpthin]

That is not the point.

Floyd was covering his face with shades and a hat. Then when asked why, Floyd says that before he starts training he decides to do PRP. For an injury? Nope. The reason does not make sense at that point in time. He can damage that area with one punch to the face.

Similarly crazy, Floyd says that he weighs relatively the same for his last 10 years so that is one advantage he has over others who need to drain themselves then rehydrate 15-20lbs ........ but needs an IV. Crazy stuff!




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Now you pact@rds dug yourself in a hole with this whole vampire facial conspiracy.
But when the truth about Manny using the same treatment, you start changing your tune.

Well now you have to explain the logic of floyd admittingly explaining the vampire facial to the media as some sort of alibi, the illegal benefits he received from the PRP treatment and the possibility of hgh being detected..........and how your conspiracy can not be applied to Manny use of PRP treatment.


This has the potential to be your greatest conspiracy yet!

Go!

[SterlingStained]

Proven to be a lie. Thomas hauser started the rumor and had admitted he was wrong. Its the very first post and entire point of this thread. You should've read it first.

How does that make you feel? You now know the truth. Do you feel misled by hauser? Or are you blinded by hatred?




These are the type of logically flawed misinterpetations of the WADA CODE that have plagued the boxing community regarding iv use.

If you don't pay close attention you will be misled.

A "medical emergency" and treatment for a "medical emergency" is not bound by the location of a patient. emt's paramedics and ambulances equiped with medical supplies/equipment are in existence because the rest of the logical world understands patients can be successfully treated without hospital or clinical admission.


But thanks for trying.

The paramedic adminstered the iv and it is within their ability to legally do so.

WADA understands this simple concept but is insightful enough to reminds idiots that their health and treatment takes priority....

....These will be dependent on the clinical situation. However, in case of a medical
emergency, a possible consequence of withholding treatment could result in
serious harm to the health or even death. Therefore, the health and well-being
of the athlete must always remain the priority.
......

https://www.wada-ama.org/en/resource...cs-intravenous





NSAC RULES doesn't ban IV method therefore does not require a TUE.

FLOYD applied for and USADA issued a TUE in order to be in compliance with WADA RULES.

NSAC has gone on record stating floyd has done nothing wrong.


The end. Thanks for trying.

prove it that floyd isnt cheating or didnt cheat before.

ill wait thanks in advance.

i aint gotta du nuffin.