Ward "Little G Golovkin Has To Answer for not stepping up"

[firstborn]

Like I said, Sanchez thinks he knocks the all out and Imo hes right, but he's not making concessions for just anyone. When he does move up he must face all comers at the weight.

Ramirez is definitely not a side but he has some momentum and a lot of potential and while theyd prefer to wait and build him up, if that's the best offer on the table why not? Ggg is no longer mando for the biggest fight in boxing, and they seem to be considering moving up soon

Not trying to be difficult but if Abel wanted 164lb for Ward then he doesn't really think GGG can knock out everyone at 168lb....which is fine, just say that!

So in summary Zurdo gets to face GGG at the full 168lb even though he's the clear "B" side, while Ward was only offered the fight at 164lbs because once GGG moves up he's staying at 168lb?

Trying to understand the logic or strategy of GGG's camp because at the moment it sounds like they're being hypocritical.

[HeroBando]

Not trying to be difficult but if Abel wanted 164lb for Ward then he doesn't really think GGG can knock out everyone at 168lb....which is fine, just say that!

So in summary Zurdo gets to face GGG at the full 168lb even though he's the clear "B" side, while Ward was only offered the fight at 164lbs because once GGG moves up he's staying at 168lb?

Trying to understand the logic or strategy of GGG's camp because at the moment it sounds like they're being hypocritical.

Ward hasn't fought at 168 since 2013? So I don't think he figured in Sanchez's boast. Though he's said it in the past, so there's that.

Bud face it, Wards offer last year wasn't even in good faith. Or if it was, it's cause Ward is a delusional diva. What's happening with his tuneups anyway?

[krazyn8tive]

Lol @ fighters who THINK they call shots when they don't. Hurt feelings isn't a good look.

[Real King Kong]

You guys make up your standards as you go along. If Golovkin can call Mayweather out at 154, why can't he fight Canelo at 155? Because a lineal MW title fight should be made at the full limit where both fighters feel strong, right?

Same applies to 168. Ward would have been a zombie at 164. This is a guy that fights at 175 now. Why is Golovkin calling SMWs out for 168, but then demanding catchweights for other SMWs? Because he was scared.

"Yo, I'll move up to 168 and **** you up Chavez!"

"Hey, I'll move up to 168 and **** you up Froch!"

"Look Ward, I want to fight you, but you gotta be fair with me and meet me at a catchweight of 164, otherwise I'll just fight Willie Monroe Jr. in a very meaningful fight for me."

C'mon son!

I don't really care about all that bs. 2 champions from different weight classes meeting in the middle is fair. Again with the false equivalency...if ggg held the lineal smw title, then yes the fight should be at that limit.

[firstborn]

Ward hasn't fought at 168 since 2013? So I don't think he figured in Sanchez's boast. Though he's said it in the past, so there's that.

Bud face it, Wards offer last year wasn't even in good faith. Or if it was, it's cause Ward is a delusional diva. What's happening with his tuneups anyway?

The topic wasn't about Ward's offer, it was about GGG's camp and their claims. Lol, I feel like you know what I'm getting at but won't fully admit it.

Doesn't really matter, I actually like GGG but Abel irritates the **** out of me because he contradicts himself without shame.

In regard to Ward, it's rumored his top choice for the Summer wants more money than Ward and HBO are willing to give up.....hopefully he can get in the ring against someone with a pulse before facing Kov.

[HeroBando]

The topic wasn't about Ward's offer, it was about GGG's camp and their claims. Lol, I feel like you know what I'm getting at but won't fully admit it.

Doesn't really matter, I actually like GGG but Abel irritates the **** out of me because he contradicts himself without shame.

In regard to Ward, it's rumored his top choice for the Summer wants more money than Ward and HBO are willing to give up.....hopefully he can get in the ring against someone with a pulse before facing Kov.

Abel is a blowhard but most trainers on top of the world are, and he's not saying stuff that's that crazy. Maybe Degale or Zurdo go 12, probably not.

I bet if Ward was willing to take 1.5m instead of 2 they could get a solid tune-up

[Cinci Champ]

If it was that important he should've took the 164lbs offer.

it was never offered only mentioned in the press

[zerosixthree]

I honestly don't believe neither Ward nor Golovkin's team ever really wanted this fight.

I can't see Ward ever making any concessions to get this fight made. Everything he does suggests that Ward feels that Golovkin is lucky that Ward would condescend to even consider getting in the ring with him let alone letting him have a say in the venue or purse split. The man probably could have earned a career best pay day embarrassing Carl Froch in front of his home fans but his ego wouldn't let him be "dictated" to.

Forget what Ward has said nothing Ward has done suggests he was any more serious than Golovkin was in making the fight. At least Golovkin's team can say the reward does not match the risk even if that is one of the lamest excuse ever. Neither side can claim to have done anything more than make lame token gestures just to placate their fans and claim the moral high ground.

Why are we even still talking about it? Ward has stated he has no intention of ever going back down to 168 and considering how people reacted when Sanchez talked that 164 nonsense I can already see how any request for a catchweight below 175 is going to have people shouting duck!

[New England]

like a ward-kessler ridiculous fiasco?

there were definitely some head clashes in that fight, but it's only europeans who think it's some kind of "fiasco."

the better man landed virtually every clean punch prior to and after the 7th round, when the first head clash occurred.

[firstborn]

Abel is a blowhard but most trainers on top of the world are, and he's not saying stuff that's that crazy. Maybe Degale or Zurdo go 12, probably not.

I bet if Ward was willing to take 1.5m instead of 2 they could get a solid tune-up

From what I've heard they've already offered him a career high payday. Seems like it's similar to the Barrera situation where Ward's prospective opponent realizes he's in a tough spot and wants to take advantage.......such is life.