Why Max Kellerman is Wrong On Mayweather Pacquiao Pound For Pound

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #51
    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
    Nah. Past prime but not washed up.

    He almost beat jmm imo. But the cards was stacked against him. Cough cough golden boy
    Nah not washed up, I didn't say he was washed up.

    Just well passed it. Sure he looked decent against Marquez, he did lose though IMO and that was more of a clash of styles.

    His two fights previous to that with Rocky Juarez said a lot.
    Last edited by IronDanHamza; 05-05-2016, 07:02 AM.

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    • Hype job
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      #52
      Originally posted by Reloaded
      Manny is nowhere near as small as you fanboys try and make out , 152 at 6% body fat .

      Nov. 28, 2008 Freddie Roach

      The size difference is what everyone is talking about. Manny is mature. He’s a much bigger person than he used to be. He’s not that skinny, 112-pound kid anymore. He weighs 152 pounds right now [a few weeks before the fight]. His body fat is six percent. He’s coming down to 147, not going up. He’s coming down, just like Oscar is. The biggest thing is, when someone goes up a weight class and fights and then comes back down to his original weight class, he usually has bad results. You see it in history. It happened to Roy Jones [who went from light heavyweight to heavyweight and back down]. Oscar will suffer to make 147; and I think he’ll be weaker as a result. I don’t think the bigger guy will be the stronger guy on Dec. 6. He’ll be taller, maybe a little heavier, but not stronger. Manny will be the bigger puncher, the faster puncher, the busier guy. Activity is my biggest thing. And Manny is better prepared for that. We fought four times this year. Oscar hasn’t fought four times in four years. I think speed and activity wins this fight, not size.
      Absolute bollocks. His highest fight night weight was 152 against Mayweather. He was like 148-149 fight night against Oscar.

      Floyd is clearly longer, taller, and naturally bigger. Any fool can gain weight, doesn't mean it's their natural size.

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      • djeffectz
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        #53
        Guys, you have to understand that being P4p doesnt mean you have to be undefeated, the reason why Max choose Pacquiao cause Pac did something that noone has done before, he went up in weight classes winning lineal champions, some said its impossible but Pac did that. He challenged himself over and over, thats what greatness is about.... Yes Mayweather is better head to head but If he was in Pac shoes early in the career and did the same thing, Mayweather would be greater cause of his boxing skills, hes the best I have ever seen but he didnt do what Pac did.

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        • Spoon23
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          #54
          Originally posted by considerthis
          It's funny how your criteria for greatness just happens to align with what you think pac did. Fighters generally move up cuz they can't make the weight anymore, or for a lucrative fight, or because they think they can grab a belt in a relatively weak division . If it was the 80s ww division...i doubt floyd or pac would have moved up. To say pac 'conquered' 8 divisions is ridiculous. The 8th wasn't even fought at the division limit and was for a paper title. Pac cherrypicked a belt at 135...it was marquez who moved up and conquered that division.
          It's actually what Max said. I'm merely explaining it further for dimwits who lack logic.

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          • WesternChamp
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            #55

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            • Spoon23
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              #56
              Originally posted by WSSD
              Dang!

              The truth keeps on coming! Max knows what's up!

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                #57
                i think maybe Pacquiao did not cherrypick so much

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                • Johnwoo8686
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Spoon23
                  Dang!

                  The truth keeps on coming! Max knows what's up!
                  You agree with him now but not when he said Floyd beat Manny clearly and that Floyd was clearly the better head to head fighter

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                  • Spoon23
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Johnwoo8686
                    You agree with him now but not when he said Floyd beat Manny clearly and that Floyd was clearly the better head to head fighter
                    He changed his tune after viewing the critical analysis video that shows who really won. He's now aligned with my point of view. So yeah, his on my side now. I didn't go over his fence. He went to mine.

                    He went to the truth team

                    Nacho about Floyd: The kid caved. Over defensive on the most important fight of his life.

                    "He knew he was supported by the judges to give a luck luster fight."

                    "He (floyd) lost so much credibility"

                    "the only one throwing punches was Pacquiao"

                    "how can they gave the rounds to a guy who even looks ridiculous running away scared?"

                    "or giving hugs to turn off the fight?"




                    # rematch written all over the place. Floyd needs to redeem himself with this poor display of boxing.
                    Last edited by Spoon23; 05-12-2016, 09:52 PM.

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                    • bleach
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by hugh grant
                      PAC beat Bradley x3 jmmx3 barrearax2 moralesx2. That alone is a fifth of Floyd's career worth of wins. PAC just consistently fought and beat higher calibre opponents throughout his career.

                      Withfloyd people always get the impression he could have challenged himself more
                      that's because people hold floyd to a greater standard. i'm sure if floyd fought GGG at 160 people would still try to find a way to discredit it

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