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  • Shadoww702
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    #101
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
    Canelo has had to pay his dues and thus has earned the right to not concede any advantages.

    Golovkin by comparison has had very easy quality of opposition. As far as I'm concerned he can dare to be great and accept Canelo's conditions...or he can fuck off.
    Which BUM is GGG going to fight next? We ALL know GGG isn't going to get Jacobs or Saunders because His promoter is to fkn CHEAP!!! They would rather pay the BUMS $500K. He's not even willing to negotiate with Canelo at 157. Canelo isn't going to give him the weight AND the $$$$.

    Canelo has PLENTY of options...

    Either one of the Charlo Brothers
    Winner of Porter/Thurman
    Kell Brook
    Demetrius Andrade
    Cotto

    I would pay to see any of those fights

    I bet even Jacobs or Saunders would come down for a CW for a fight with Canelo. Saunders would get his $4 million asking price from Canelo. Unlike GREEDY Leoffler.

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    • ahferriz
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      #102
      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
      But regardless as to how loudly they cry, Team Golovkin understand perfectly..... because they did the exact same thing to Ward.
      I didn't know GGG had a 168lb belt and Ward was the mandatory for it and GGG only wanted the fight at 161lb because that would be the "exact same thing" right?

      I think GGG haters are becoming the most anoying group of NSB posters by far.

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        #103
        Originally posted by GGG Gloveking
        How much did Saunders get to fight whats his name? Or did that fight get cancelled? Saunders was offered a career high payday against Golovkin and turned it down for that other guy. The IBF ordered the Wade fight ti happen and Golovkin, unlike certain other middleweight champs, faced his mandatory.
        I'm not saying Saunders is worth the money or is any good. He's probably going to get beat here soon and then GGG is going to have to wait LONGER to get that belt. They should of paid him or split the difference and offered him $2.75 but they didn't even try. They run their company like Dana White. And refuse to negotiate with ANYONE...If he REALLY was about the belt they would of paid the man. The fight still would of made plenty of profit.

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          #104
          Originally posted by ahferriz
          I didn't know GGG had a 168lb belt and Ward was the mandatory for it and GGG only wanted the fight at 161lb because that would be the "exact same thing" right?

          I think GGG haters are becoming the most anoying group of NSB posters by far.
          Nahh Gtards are 1000x worse!!!

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          • koolkc107
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            #105
            Originally posted by ahferriz
            I didn't know GGG had a 168lb belt and Ward was the mandatory for it and GGG only wanted the fight at 161lb because that would be the "exact same thing" right?

            I think GGG haters are becoming the most anoying group of NSB posters by far.
            Amazing how myopic lil g fans get when forced to acknowledge his hypocrisy.

            The point here is that lil g perceived himself (incorrectly IMO) as the A-side with Ward and wasted no time in trying to force Andre to fight at a weight that would have been quite the handicap.

            Which is contrasted greatly by the 155 Canelo as an A-side is trying to impose, since lil g has been saying for 4 years now that he will go up or down in weight to get the big fight and said as little as a year and a half ago that he'd have no problem with a catchweight for a Canelo fight even as a championship fight.

            When you factor all that in, it makes you wonder who is really trying not to fight...

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            • HeroBando
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              #106
              Originally posted by koolkc107
              Amazing how myopic lil g fans get when forced to acknowledge his hypocrisy.

              The point here is that lil g perceived himself (incorrectly IMO) as the A-side with Ward and wasted no time in trying to force Andre to fight at a weight that would have been quite the handicap.

              Which is contrasted greatly by the 155 Canelo as an A-side is trying to impose, since lil g has been saying for 4 years now that he will go up or down in weight to get the big fight and said as little as a year and a half ago that he'd have no problem with a catchweight for a Canelo fight even as a championship fight.

              When you factor all that in, it makes you wonder who is really trying not to fight...
              You don't have to wonder, just listen to what team Canelo are saying. It'll happen one day, down the line. Can't get clearer

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                #107
                Originally posted by Shadoww702
                I'm not saying Saunders is worth the money or is any good. He's probably going to get beat here soon and then GGG is going to have to wait LONGER to get that belt. They should of paid him or split the difference and offered him $2.75 but they didn't even try. They run their company like Dana White. And refuse to negotiate with ANYONE...If he REALLY was about the belt they would of paid the man. The fight still would of made plenty of profit.
                I can't remember the figure being floated around in Dec and Jan, and refuted only recently by Mr Saunders, but it was either £2.2M or £2.4M, which is roughly $3M US. Again it was a career payday for Saunders that he turned down. With that figure, its hard to say K2 wasnt genuine with their attempt to negotiate with Saunders. It hasnt happened and Im not as critical of Saunders as I am Alvarez.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                  Canelo demanding 155,,, It would be like the packers saying we will play, but the field is only 60 yards instead of 100...
                  But by the same token if Golovkin is so good then why doesn't he just go to 155 and beat Canelo?

                  This is a guy that is supposed to be a special talent...that his own team has said would fight anyone from 154 to 168 pounds....so why doesn't he just go kick Alvarez' butt under Alvarez' own terms and build himself a real legend and legacy?

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by koolkc107
                    Amazing how myopic lil g fans get when forced to acknowledge his hypocrisy.

                    The point here is that lil g perceived himself (incorrectly IMO) as the A-side with Ward and wasted no time in trying to force Andre to fight at a weight that would have been quite the handicap.

                    Which is contrasted greatly by the 155 Canelo as an A-side is trying to impose, since lil g has been saying for 4 years now that he will go up or down in weight to get the big fight and said as little as a year and a half ago that he'd have no problem with a catchweight for a Canelo fight even as a championship fight.

                    When you factor all that in, it makes you wonder who is really trying not to fight...
                    I fail to see how the mathematical average of the two weight classes would be a decided advantage for either fighter. One fighter gains 4, the other loses 4.

                    And it does contrast sharply with the catchweight Canelo is attempting to use. Firstly, it is a contest of two champions of the same weight class, as opposed to two different class champions. Secondly, 155 is the bare mininum of the weight class. That would be equivalent to Golovkin asking for a catchweight of 161. That now, would be a decided advantage.

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                    • koolkc107
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by HeroBando
                      You don't have to wonder, just listen to what team Canelo are saying. It'll happen one day, down the line. Can't get clearer
                      All I know is that the guy who has been saying he can go up or down for big fights for 4 years (yet magically has managed to NEVER actually do it), the guy who less than 18 months ago said a middle weight championship fight with Canelo at a catchweight was no problem is now saying he won't do what he said he would do.

                      The same guy who insists he could do a pound less than what Canelo is asking in order to get a fight with the guy who BEAT Canelo.

                      When some conjured mandatory status is the only slim thread making your position make any sense at all, I'd say there is a huge credibility problem.

                      And I am certain it is going to backfire, that K2 and lil g are in for a very rude awakening.

                      And when they try to sue, it is going to be their own words that bite them in the arse there too.

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