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  • Shadoww702
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    #111
    Originally posted by GGG Gloveking
    I can't remember the figure being floated around in Dec and Jan, and refuted only recently by Mr Saunders, but it was either £2.2M or £2.4M, which is roughly $3M US. Again it was a career payday for Saunders that he turned down. With that figure, its hard to say K2 wasnt genuine with their attempt to negotiate with Saunders. It hasnt happened and Im not as critical of Saunders as I am Alvarez.
    I was told it was just $1.5 and that was it. If they offered $3 Million to Saunders and he didn't take it then he's a MORON! He's not even any good.

    I'm actually critical of both GGG and Canelo.

    I blame Canelo if he sticks to JUST 155
    And I blame GGG if he sticks to JUST 160

    If one side offers to meet in the middle then I'll blame the other side if the fight doesn't get made.

    Fighters are making RECORD $$$$ fighting Canelo. Cotto got OVER $30 Million. Khan $6 million. It suks that he probably won't fight GGG at 160lbs but when your the bread winner you have more say.

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    • HeroBando
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      #112
      Originally posted by koolkc107
      All I know is that the guy who has been saying he can go up or down for big fights for 4 years (yet magically has managed to NEVER actually do it), the guy who less than 18 months ago said a middle weight championship fight with Canelo at a catchweight was no problem is now saying he won't do what he said he would do.

      The same guy who insists he could do a pound less than what Canelo is asking in order to get a fight with the guy who BEAT Canelo.

      When some conjured mandatory status is the only slim thread making your position make any sense at all, I'd say there is a huge credibility problem.

      And I am certain it is going to backfire, that K2 and lil g are in for a very rude awakening.

      And when they try to sue, it is going to be their own words that bite them in the arse there too.
      You're over thinking this. GBP is not gonna offer a CW, they don't want Ggg at any weight. But yes, it'd be a disgrace if 3 MW belts + lineal were decided at 155

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        #113
        Originally posted by GGG Gloveking
        I fail to see how the mathematical average of the two weight classes would be a decided advantage for either fighter. One fighter gains 4, the other loses 4.

        And it does contrast sharply with the catchweight Canelo is attempting to use. Firstly, it is a contest of two champions of the same weight class, as opposed to two different class champions. Secondly, 155 is the bare mininum of the weight class. That would be equivalent to Golovkin asking for a catchweight of 161. That now, would be a decided advantage.
        161 is in another weight class. 155 isn't! So that's a bad example.

        You forgot Canelo is more popular and brings in WAY more $$$$$$. He's fought the best to earn it. GGG has talent but he's only so far fought BUMS. And that last fight was PATHETIC!!! He shouldn't even of been in the same ring.

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          #114
          Originally posted by HeroBando
          You're over thinking this. GBP is not gonna offer a CW, they don't want Ggg at any weight. But yes, it'd be a disgrace if 3 MW belts + lineal were decided at 155
          Why would it be a disgrace?

          The last two times the lineal changed hands it was at a catchweight.

          And, it has been contested at catch weights long before anyone thought about lil g.

          And most of all, as I have just said, lil g and his peeps were on board for exactly that just a short 18 months ago if it meant a Canelo fight.

          The only thing that has "changed" is that they mistakenly think they have leverage they actually do not.

          Don't say I didn't warn you.

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          • HeroBando
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            #115
            Originally posted by koolkc107
            Why would it be a disgrace?

            The last two times the lineal changed hands it was at a catchweight.

            And, it has been contested at catch weights long before anyone thought about lil g.

            And most of all, as I have just said, lil g and his peeps were on board for exactly that just a short 18 months ago if it meant a Canelo fight.

            The only thing that has "changed" is that they mistakenly think the have leverage they actually do not.

            Don't say I didn't warn you.
            Not at Sww+1, titles are never decided there. Canelos 155 bluff is historical stuff, no precedent. However it won't even go down as a demand, they're outright refusing to fight the mando

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            • Jubei
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              #116
              Originally posted by bambam182
              why did GGG say he would fight froch and Chavez at 160 but ward at 164? can GGG fans at least answer that without running around it?
              Originally posted by bambam182
              lol so GGG can demand a catchweights for ward? but wont accept a canelo one?

              the GGG fans are the new pac-tards.
              Canelo and GGG = same size - Both middleweights, Canelo has the 160lb belt, lineal and WBC. Why give in to Diva demands to a 160lb title holder? GGG said if the title is not on the line, they might do a catchweight in 2017.

              Ward = fought at supermiddle, higher division, if both fight there is not even a title on the line, bigger than GGG. For such a matchup catchweights can make sense.

              Shake my head, these young uneducated boxing fans who follow the sport since 2 years and already start hating and bull****ting.

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              • Jubei
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                #117
                Originally posted by koolkc107
                Why would it be a disgrace?

                The last two times the lineal changed hands it was at a catchweight.

                And, it has been contested at catch weights long before anyone thought about lil g.

                And most of all, as I have just said, lil g and his peeps were on board for exactly that just a short 18 months ago if it meant a Canelo fight.

                The only thing that has "changed" is that they mistakenly think they have leverage they actually do not.

                Don't say I didn't warn you.
                Why the f... dont you post with your main account? **** alt accounts from haters all over the place. Also you are a liar, GGG never said he would fight Canelo or anybody else for a MW belt at 155. They said they would be open to negotiate with Canelo after he hands over the belt, but they will do any title fight at the official sanctioned weight.

                Liar.

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                • GGG Gloveking
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Shadoww702
                  161 is in another weight class. 155 isn't! So that's a bad example.

                  You forgot Canelo is more popular and brings in WAY more $$$$$$. He's fought the best to earn it. GGG has talent but he's only so far fought BUMS. And that last fight was PATHETIC!!! He shouldn't even of been in the same ring.
                  I was a little vague there, sorry. I meant to say "offered Ward 161." 161 is the bare minimum of the SMW class, and would have been a comparable offer to Canelos. That is, of course, equating GGGs belt at a lower class than Ward, with Canelo holding a belt in the same class as Golovkin.

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                  • GGG Gloveking
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                    #119
                    What is truly a disgrace to the great heritage of the middleweight title is the fact that a fighter who has never fought at middleweight, nor the division below, is being given a shot at the title.

                    People complain that Golovkin, who has knocked out 22 consecutive middleweights, hasnt earned a shot. What exactly has Khan done at middleweight, or junior middleweight, or seriously welterweight for that matter, to deserve a shot at the middleweight championship?

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                    • The plunger man
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                      Learn the sport son..... rightly-or-wrongly, plenty of titles have been won at catchweight.

                      Chill, I get it..... Golovkin could take that fight..... and he can obviously beat Mayweather and Canelo at 154, easy..... but for some reason, he just doesn't want to..... I get it.

                      Just like all the great ones did.
                      Go back down that rat hole where you crawled out from......and stick to MMA weirdo lol

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