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  • titan m
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    #91
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
    Uh, no..... they said it would be a very difficult fight.

    The funny thing is, using YOUR methodology.....

    * you all say Golovkin will wreck Canelo, you KNOW he has an advantage
    * you all say that Golovkin can beat Mayweather, AT 154
    * and most of you admit, that Golovkin has fought NOBODY

    And yet..... it would be totally unreasonable for Golovkin to finally start to live up to his reputation by giving up a weight concession to a JMW in order to make a HUGE fight..... just like everyone else did?

    I don't think you or Golovkin want him to be great.

    Which is fine.... but yea, I guess there is nothing to see here.
    Who's the jr middleweight you say is a huge fight for Golovkin? Surely you don't mean the middleweight champion, Canelo, who hasn't fought at the jr middleweight limit in about 3 years.

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    • ShoulderRoll
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      #92
      Canelo has had to pay his dues and thus has earned the right to not concede any advantages.

      Golovkin by comparison has had very easy quality of opposition. As far as I'm concerned he can dare to be great and accept Canelo's conditions...or he can fuck off.

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        #93
        Originally posted by bambam182
        name one opponent that GGG fought that is better then canelos 3 best wins?

        you all said he was ducking trout and lara, beat both. beat cotto.

        who has GGG beat that puts him on the map other then his KO streak of C and B level fighters?
        GGG has not fought any B level fighters yet. They've ALL been C or lower.

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          #94
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
          Canelo has had to pay his dues and thus has earned the right to not concede any advantages.

          Golovkin by comparison has had very easy quality of opposition. As far as I'm concerned he can dare to be great and accept Canelo's conditions...or he can fuck off.
          Canelos only condition is for Ggg to leave him alone. Fine, but he's gotta give Ggg his belt

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            #95
            Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi
            I don't know how many times I've answered this ****** question.

            Canelo's resume is smoke and mirrors, carefully chosen opponents with stacked judges. When he's not dragging up WW. Now to 155, he's fighting guys who have long periods of inactivity.

            Even Khan has almost a year off! Dude hasn't been fighting either.

            his wins over Trout, Lara, and Cotto are meaningless in this debate, because not one of those fighters stand a chance against GGG. Cotto stutters when GGG name comes up.

            Trout, inactive.

            Lara, he's accomplished crap. Canelo got to him, Angulo did too. GGG would pulverize him. Very reason Lara isn't calling k2 and is asking for money mney than the market allows for him.

            However, Murray, Monroe, Rubio, Rosado, Lemieux. Not of of them would surprise me all that much if they beat Canelo.

            So while Canelo has names, it's bogus considering the dude fought Trout after a long period of inactivity--and many think he lost.

            He fount Angulo same thing, except the win was clear.

            Lara arguably beat Canelo, at least Drawed him.

            The reason Canelo is going to duck GGG is clear, because without draining him, he has no chance in hell of beating him.

            SIX MW titles are on the line, and no way they should be fought at with no lame as CW.

            Canelo is the heavier fighter anyway, he's not giving up no advantages other than strength. We don't have strength divisions.
            That's just ******! You know DAMN well you wouldn't put money on ANY of those bums to beat Canelo. And if you did I would be right there to TAKE it! Taking $$$$ from ****** ppl is the BEST!!!

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              #96
              Originally posted by Liondw
              That's because most top guys don't want to fight GGG duh. Canelo probably not scared but not exactly keen to fight him. If you're the middleweight champion of the world, you fight at 160 lbs, not this catchweight rubbish.
              Saunders would of fought him but GGG cared more about saving $2.5 million then fighting him for a BELT! They decided to fight Wade for $500,000 instead.

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                #97
                Originally posted by Shadoww702
                Saunders would of fought him but GGG cared more about saving $2.5 million then fighting him for a BELT! They decided to fight Wade for $500,000 instead.
                Saving 2.5m?! That's more than Gggs best purse ffs

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Shadoww702
                  GGG has not fought any B level fighters yet. They've ALL been C or lower.
                  For the purposes of this conversation, the only GGG opponent that matters is Marco Antonio Rubio, who Golovkin defeated to become the WBC interim champion, and thus the mandatory challenger to whoever holds that green strap. A lot of guys talk about "A side B side", "resumes", "dare to be great", but the only term that applies here is mandatory. That puts the onus on the champion to defend his title against the mandatory challenger.

                  At some point, the WBC will tell Canelo and GBP that THEY are the A side. A lot of people put a lot of stock in the WBCs greed being its primary motivation. I contend that at some point, the concept of "Mexican Pride" will kick in and Sulaiman will not like being dictated to by some promotor. He will not like the idea of someone else telling him when and how the belt will be defended.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Shadoww702
                    Saunders would of fought him but GGG cared more about saving $2.5 million then fighting him for a BELT! They decided to fight Wade for $500,000 instead.
                    How much did Saunders get to fight whats his name? Or did that fight get cancelled? Saunders was offered a career high payday against Golovkin and turned it down for that other guy. The IBF ordered the Wade fight ti happen and Golovkin, unlike certain other middleweight champs, faced his mandatory.

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                      #100
                      This is why boxing is dying in america.


                      Golovkin has clearly been top contender for the past five years.. yet any top middleweight won't fight him

                      N'dam ducked an eliminator
                      Sturm wouldn't defend
                      serg wouldn't defend
                      cotto wouldn't defend
                      now canelo wouldn't defend

                      How pathetic of a sport, when everyone is running from one guy in the division, and so called "fans" approve


                      Canelo demanding 155,,, It would be like the packers saying we will play, but the field is only 60 yards instead of 100...

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