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Since when are smaller fighters( Pacquiao) expected to cut the ring off on larger com
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Originally posted by SilverMiles View PostRoach says Cotto and ODH couldn't cut of the ring as well. Do you agree ?
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Originally posted by GTTofAK View PostNot if its closed. If the southpaw has the outside angle you go right. You are probably used to bad southpaws, of which there are many, who square up with you because they have a bad trainer who doesn't know how train southpaws who are also many.
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Originally posted by considerthis View PostThe foot position itself doesn't stop anyone from moving that way...it's always the safer bet to go that way to get off the ropes unless being blocked by the corner.
Going to the left is the correct way to escape? You are going to ignore all the space you have to your right and instead you are going to try and pass right through the path of the left and into the right hook?
This is where orthedox fighters really dont get it. The most they know about fighting a southpaw is go left and take the outside angle. Like you said, 'you go left because that is the way you go against southpaws'. As if that is all there is to it. Good southpaws feast on ignorant oththedox fighters who know nothing but to take the outside angle.Last edited by GTTofAK; 04-21-2016, 03:04 PM.
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Originally posted by GTTofAK View PostReally you are saying that in this position
Going to the left is the correct way to escape? You are going to ignore all the space you have to your right and instead you are going to try and pass right through the path of the left and into the right hook?
This is where orthedox fighters really dont get it. The most they know about fighting a southpaw is go left and take the outside angle. Like you said, 'you go left because that is the way you go against southpaws'. As if that is all there is to it. Good southpaws feast on ignorant oththedox fighters who know nothing but to take the outside angle.
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Originally posted by considerthis View PostIt really depends how close you are to the ropes or a corner.
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Originally posted by GTTofAK View PostNo really it depends on if the angle is open or closed. You dont want to be trying to force your way across an already established angle. Ironically its already been shown what happens when you try to move across an already established outside or inside angle. Froid got popped when he tried to slide step out against an established inside angle against Judah and the outside angle against Manny.
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Originally posted by considerthis View PostWhat closes the angle if you have room to step back? The foot position is mostly to give you a better angle for your punches while making the opponent's less effective...it only serves to limit movement if your opponent is near a corner or on the ropes. Please post video of the examples of maywether vs pac...you've said that he kept doing thst against pac.
As for him doing it against Pac watch it yourself. He escaped left all night. It was smart since he knew Pac had a bad shoulder. It forced him to throw his hook.
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If your a pressure styled fighter and your opponent moves laterally you have to cut him off!
Hammerin' Hank always gave away height and reach but was a pressure styled fighter. LaMotta also pressured and made moves to make his opponent move into the punch he felt would be most effective!
Pac is a pressure guy who capitalizes on his hand speed. He works in & out more than laterally but he isn't the greatest strategists either in regards to setting traps.
Ray
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Originally posted by GTTofAK View PostThe subject at hand is holding your opponent on the ropes or in the corner.
As for him doing it against Pac watch it yourself. He escaped left all night. It was smart since he knew Pac had a bad shoulder. It forced him to throw his hook.
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