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  • Originally posted by considerthis View Post
    For having an injured shoulder, he sure threw a lot of flailing rights that were coming up short.
    You answered your own question and showed a lack of any understanding of the muscles and what they do.

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    • Originally posted by GTTofAK View Post
      You answered your own question and showed a lack of any understanding of the muscles and what they do.
      Oh...so reaching with hooks that mayweather was moving out of range of was a result of a rotator cuff injury? Please explain doctor.

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      • Originally posted by .!WAR CANELO!. View Post
        wtf does size have to do with cutting the ring off lol.

        YDKSAB
        It's you who DKSAB.

        Cutting the ring against a longer reach opponent will be painful to do. As the op explained. Duran when he pressed on to cut the ring against bigger longer reach opponents he got tagged with stiff jabs as he entered, as do Marvin Hagler against Herns. Cutting the ring is best when you have the same reach or longer reach than your opponent, so that it nullifies your opponents will to fire those stiff jabs coz if he misses he pays with your own stiff jab.

        If the opponent has longer reach than you. Chances are, cutting in going in will lead you to be peppered with stiff jabs, hence, not the right strategy when faced with a bigger lengthier reached opponent.

        It's one thing to fight a smaller man, which makes it easy to cut the ring with the confidence your reach can get to him faster than he can since he has shorter reach, while if both have equal reach, cutting the ring will give both a chance to land and counter evenly. A recipe for a good fight. As Spencer was to Algieri both have almost the same reach.

        That said. Saying reach is not a factor in cutting the ring properly DKSAB.

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        • Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
          It's you who DKSAB.

          Cutting the ring against a longer reach opponent will be painful to do. As the op explained. Duran when he pressed on to cut the ring against bigger longer reach opponents he got tagged with stiff jabs as he entered, as do Marvin Hagler against Herns. Cutting the ring is best when you have the same reach or longer reach than your opponent, so that it nullifies your opponents will to fire those stiff jabs coz if he misses he pays with your own stiff jab.

          If the opponent has longer reach than you. Chances are, cutting in going in will lead you to be peppered with stiff jabs, hence, not the right strategy when faced with a bigger lengthier reached opponent.

          It's one thing to fight a smaller man, which makes it easy to cut the ring with the confidence your reach can get to him faster than he can since he has shorter reach, while if both have equal reach, cutting the ring will give both a chance to land and counter evenly. A recipe for a good fight. As Spencer was to Algieri both have almost the same reach.

          That said. Saying reach is not a factor in cutting the ring properly DKSAB.
          lmfao YDKSAB

          so being taller or smaller will make thing more difficult of course doesn't mean it has anything to performing the act. lol.

          So only tall dudes can cut off the ring now?

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          • Originally posted by .!WAR CANELO!. View Post
            lmfao YDKSAB

            so being taller or smaller will make thing more difficult of course doesn't mean it has anything to performing the act. lol.

            So only tall dudes can cut off the ring now?
            Watch Duran and Hagler fights when they fought longer taller men. When they try to cut the ring since they are pressure fighters. They get peppered going in, but they still press on. Getting hit from time to time, but that's their game. Pac on the other hand didn't want to get peppered going in since he has the skills and athleticism to close the distance with his foot work easily.

            I won't have to explain this. You have eyes use it.

            lastly, if you really do know your boxing. You should know reach, height, weight are factors in boxing that bettors use to gauge their bets, since wait for it.. Wait for it..

            It matters.

            It's called tale of the tape. Brush up on your boxing bud.
            Last edited by Spoon23; 05-02-2016, 06:25 PM.

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            • Originally posted by considerthis View Post
              Oh...so reaching with hooks that mayweather was moving out of range of was a result of a rotator cuff injury? Please explain doctor.
              The rotator cuff is what stabilizes the shoulder. It does not throw the hook. The front delt and pec throws the hook, upper-body wise. The inability to stabilize the hook is a result of the torn rotator cuff.

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              • Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post
                Watch Duran and Hagler fights when they fought longer taller men. When they try to cut the ring since they are pressure fighters.
                Actually haggler forced opponents to the ropes a lot like Manny does.

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkwiAELlZtY

                Look familiar.

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                • Originally posted by GTTofAK View Post
                  Actually haggler forced opponents to the ropes a lot like Manny does.

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkwiAELlZtY

                  Look familiar.
                  He does but Hagler is a pressure fighter he cuts the ring like a shark hunting its prey. Two different animals, but yes Marvin corners them to the ropes like Pac.
                  Last edited by Spoon23; 05-02-2016, 07:46 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by GTTofAK View Post
                    The rotator cuff is what stabilizes the shoulder. It does not throw the hook. The front delt and pec throws the hook, upper-body wise. The inability to stabilize the hook is a result of the torn rotator cuff.
                    Lol...ok. you don't have to defend every failing of manny. Him missing hooks a lot of the time was due to mayweather turning out with his own hook, it's common with orthodox vs southpaws. It was a question of him reaching for something that was moving out of range...nothing to do with stability. You're also completely high if you think that the main group of muscles and tendons that keep the ball of the shoulder in the socket don't have anything to do with the mechanics of throwing a hook.

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                    • Originally posted by considerthis View Post
                      Lol...ok. you don't have to defend every failing of manny. Him missing hooks a lot of the time was due to mayweather turning out with his own hook, it's common with orthodox vs southpaws. It was a question of him reaching for something that was moving out of range...nothing to do with stability. You're also completely high if you think that the main group of muscles and tendons that keep the ball of the shoulder in the socket don't have anything to do with the mechanics of throwing a hook.
                      The only moron is you if you think that rotator cuff pulls the humerus across the body. You've been listing to too many dumb**** high-school dropouts on this forum. The four muscles the make up the rotator cuff originate from he scapula and in no way can they pull the humerus across the body. A muscle originating from the rear can in no way pull anything forward you ****ing moron. Their job is to stabilize the should and provide counter balance as the much stronger muscles in the chest and delt pull the humerus.

                      Lets get this straight you are ******. You dont know what the rotator cuff is or what it does. So shut the **** up.

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