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  • GTTofAK
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    #181
    Originally posted by SplitSecond
    This is one move to keep the opposite style boxed in, lead hand hook to the body.
    Ugh I wish. You take the outside angle to throw lead hook to the body they escape inside angle. You take the inside angle and they escape outside angle. There really is no right answer.

    In hindsight I really do believe that Froid knew Manny's rotator cuff was torn and worked that into the gameplan. Live it was odd for me trying to figure out why he keep trying to escape to his left when it was closed. In hindsight its obvious. To force Manny to throw the right hook.
    Last edited by GTTofAK; 04-20-2016, 05:31 PM.

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      #182
      Originally posted by revelated
      Here's my simple definition.

      If you got knocked down by Pacquiao, he cut you off. Period, point blank. He caught you. It doesn't matter if he couldn't KEEP catching you (Algieri). If he caught you once, you got cut off. He couldn't have caught you if he didn't cut you off.

      The only exception to that rule is Clottey, because Clottey just shelled up over 12, and Oscar, who just plodded forward and got stopped.

      Which thus means the only fighter that Manny could not cut off AT ALL...was TBE.
      What a ****** line of thinking.

      If someone throws the cross all night and lands it only once, does that make their cross effective

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        #183
        Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
        What a ****** line of thinking.

        If someone throws the cross all night and lands it only once, does that make their cross effective
        Worked for Marquez and the overhand right. It only takes one shot, dude.

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          #184
          Originally posted by larryxxx...
          CUT=you CUT THE EXIT OFF.. how hard is that to understand??? if they keep slipping out..YOU DIDNT CUT THE DAMN RING OFF
          Take it easy on em. They aren't actual boxing fans, just fans of the man.

          Originally posted by Rip Chudd
          Why can't people just accept that he doesn't cut the ring off well and move on? As if having a flaw nullifies the greatness he displayed in the ring or diminishes his accomplishments in any way. If anything it shows how great he is despite his flaws
          I know, right? They take everything so personally. I still remember some moron getting apoplectic because I criticised his bball "skills".

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          • daggum
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            #185
            cutting off the ring is just a tactic people. its a tactic slower fighters usually use when they can't match the speed of their faster opponents so they want to trap them in the corners/ropes so they can get off punches since they can't in teh center of the ring. pac didn't have that problem against floyd since he was catching him flush and barely getting hit flush in return. just look at how everything is framed and how it influences people. no one would ever say floyd sucks at cutting off the ring and couldn't cut it off vs pac. the onus is always placed on pac for some strange reason. just shows how conditioned some people are and how they don't look at what actually happens but what they thought should happen.

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              #186
              Originally posted by Reloaded
              Manny likes them to stay in front of him , he has never liked movers going right back to avoiding Raheem .
              Nice try but incorrect.

              When Manny fought Morales the first time, he had just moved up to 130. Morales fought Raheem right at 135 (not 130) after that and lost.

              Manny stayed at 130 for like 3 years time. Raheem by then had lost, had no title while against Diaz it was for the title. As Manny beat Diaz, Raheem lost AGAIN and Manny moved up several more divisions to fight Oscar. Like I said, nice try ...... but incorrect.


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              Last edited by ADP02; 04-21-2016, 12:06 AM.

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                #187
                Originally posted by b00g13man
                Take it easy on em. They aren't actual boxing fans, just fans of the man.



                I know, right? They take everything so personally. I still remember some moron getting apoplectic because I criticised his bball "skills".
                Skills? What would happen when Manny would cut off the ring? Floyd would more often than not be doing this and the ref allowed it unfortunately:

                The ref did nothing about the hugging, pulling Manny's arms, head-locks, ....






                more skills

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                  #188
                  Originally posted by ADP02
                  Skills? What would happen when Manny would cut off the ring? Floyd would more often than not be doing this and the ref allowed it unfortunately:

                  The ref did nothing about the hugging, pulling Manny's arms, head-locks, ....






                  more skills
                  I'm talking about basketball, and this clown posted up pics of the handful of clinches, also exposing Manny's lack of an inside game in the process.

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                  • Real King Kong
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                    #189
                    Originally posted by GTTofAK
                    Ugh I wish. You take the outside angle to throw lead hook to the body they escape inside angle. You take the inside angle and they escape outside angle. There really is no right answer.

                    In hindsight I really do believe that Froid knew Manny's rotator cuff was torn and worked that into the gameplan. Live it was odd for me trying to figure out why he keep trying to escape to his left when it was closed. In hindsight its obvious. To force Manny to throw the right hook.
                    You're over thinking it...that's the way you go against a southpaw, especially when you're being pushed against the ropes.

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                      #190
                      Originally posted by ADP02
                      Nice try but incorrect.

                      When Manny fought Morales the first time, he had just moved up to 130. Morales fought Raheem right at 135 (not 130) after that and lost.

                      Manny stayed at 130 for like 3 years time. Raheem by then had lost, had no title while against Diaz it was for the title. As Manny beat Diaz, Raheem lost AGAIN and Manny moved up several more divisions to fight Oscar. Like I said, nice try ...... but incorrect.


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                      Oh, you mean when pac cherrypicked the weakest titlest in the division...who shouldn't even have still had the belt cuz he was given a gift against morales? 8 division "champion" tho.

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