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  • #41
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
    Yes you do. You and One Punch do this all the time. You can't defend GGG's resume on the merits so the only way to defend is to label the poster. Just stop pretending its one group of posters that has a problem with GGG's resume.
    I tend to think the GGG hate is more of a racial thing because there simply is no rational basis for it. Anyone capable of critical thinking knows that GGG cant kidnap people at gunpoint and force them to fight. And anyone with over 3 active brain cells knows the ward "offer" was a sucker deal for a fight that still wouldnt even have happened yet......

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    • #42
      Originally posted by kafkod View Post
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      LMFAO! You found one online bookie who was offering 100-1 against Wade and you've been running around with it like a happy puppy dog with a bone ever since!

      Curb your excitement for a second and remember ... Paul Smith was hand picked and dragged up from 168 to fight Ward.

      GGG is only fighting Wade because he will lose his IBF belt if he doesn't.
      More then one. AND it was from a website some GGGtard thought had it 16-1. He was wrong. Most wont even let you bet on this POS mismatch. Give me 16-1 ODDS and I'll park my ass right next to you with both are cash on the table Saturday . ill be leaving with YOUR money.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
        Idek what you are arguing. I'm not saying GGG isn't popular. I'm saying Canelo is more popular. And he's more popular in the US with a strong Mexican fan base where a lot of the money in boxing comes from on this side of the globe. Canelo is already #11 on the most PPV buys in history list with 3.7M buys. GGG has 150k career PPV buys (or there about I think he did some minor PPV's that I've never seen #'s on). Cmon brother its not even disputable Canelo has higher ground here.

        Maybe GGG CAN be bigger than Canelo. The hard reality for GGG & you apparently is he isn't bigger than Canelo where it matters in Las Vegas, Nevada @ the MGM Grand in 5 months. Wade isn't gonna be the win that pushes GGG over Canelo I'm willing to bet.
        Lol, no hard reality for me mate - I won't be getting any of GGG's money no matter how big he becomes!

        Just pointing out, he doesn't need a fight with Canelo as badly as many people seem to think.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Shadoww702 View Post
          More then one. AND it was from a website some GGGtard thought had it 16-1. He was wrong. Most wont even let you bet on this POS mismatch. Give me 16-1 ODDS and I'll park my ass right next to you with both are cash on the table Saturday . ill be leaving with YOUR money.
          Wow ... that must have been so thrilling for you.

          Even better than watching Andre Ward beating the great 3 time Cuban national championship bronze medal winner Sullivan Barrera?
          Last edited by kafkod; 04-18-2016, 01:53 PM.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by kafkod View Post
            Lol, no hard reality for me mate - I won't be getting any of GGG's money no matter how big he becomes!

            Just pointing out, he doesn't need a fight with Canelo as badly as many people seem to think.
            Brother you just went on & on about how good GGG's business side of things are & now like f#ck that noise when I mentioned Canelo's & saying they were better lol.

            But who's saying GGG needs it badly. I'm just saying he needs it badder than Canelo does. I'm saying Canelo is bigger financially for the parties involved. I'm saying Canelo brings more fans. I'm saying Canelo's decision & what he says after it will be the narrative of choice. Canelo is driving the car, but sure GGG can make millions fighting whatever opponents for years to come...Canelo will just make more millions for more years. Everything to do with this situation Canelo has the superior position except with the WBC title stuff (if the WBC even follows thru with that), but that isn't gonna be enough for GGG to score some sorta W over Canelo with fans if this fight doesn't happen which was the original point.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by OnePunch View Post
              I tend to think the GGG hate is more of a racial thing because there simply is no rational basis for it. Anyone capable of critical thinking knows that GGG cant kidnap people at gunpoint and force them to fight. And anyone with over 3 active brain cells knows the ward "offer" was a sucker deal for a fight that still wouldnt even have happened yet......
              Or is it because GGG fans are worse then *******s??And their mostly a bunch of HYPOCRITES!

              Typical GGG Tard:

              It's OK for GGG to have a mismatch as long as it's against UNWORTHY mandatories.

              But CRUSH Floyd for fighting his Mandatories.

              And TALK sht about Andre Ward having a mismatch fight AFTER not Boxing for a Year and half.

              Talk sht that Ward didn't want to ever fight GGG YET Ward is gonna fight my personal P4P boxer Kovalev.


              Ggg fans can NEVER just be happy unless their calling someone a duck, or theyre fighting BUMS.

              He has the most ANNOYING, hypocritical, OBNOXIOUS fans on the PLANET!

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              • #47
                Originally posted by OnePunch View Post
                I tend to think the GGG hate is more of a racial thing because there simply is no rational basis for it. Anyone capable of critical thinking knows that GGG cant kidnap people at gunpoint and force them to fight. And anyone with over 3 active brain cells knows the ward "offer" was a sucker deal for a fight that still wouldnt even have happened yet......
                Most of it is fair criticism, not hate. The rationale for it is the paucity of his resume.

                We've discussed this before. I agree with you it's not his fault people ducked him. That said, it is his fault for the choices he makes once he is ducked. That is what almost all of the criticism he gets is about.

                This is the other point where you are extremely disingenuous. Its not just about Ward. It's about his willingness to fight money fights at 168 yet claim his goal is "unification" when the more difficult 168 fights are discussed. It is very fair to criticize him and his camp for this.

                The bottom line is you, kafkod and some others continually try and paint any criticism GGG gets as purely race based when it isn't. Its not just "floyd fans" "canelo" or "cotto" fans or any other PC way of labeling fans of these fighters.

                GGG gets criticism from across the spectrum of NSB. Not all of it is fair, no, but no fighter gets only "fair" criticism on NSB. that doesn't make all of it racial, biased or unfair.
                Last edited by The Big Dunn; 04-18-2016, 02:14 PM.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
                  Brother you just went on & on about how good GGG's business side of things are & now like f#ck that noise when I mentioned Canelo's & saying they were better lol.

                  But who's saying GGG needs it badly. I'm just saying he needs it badder than Canelo does. I'm saying Canelo is bigger financially for the parties involved. I'm saying Canelo brings more fans. I'm saying Canelo's decision & what he says after it will be the narrative of choice. Canelo is driving the car, but sure GGG can make millions fighting whatever opponents for years to come...Canelo will just make more millions for more years. Everything to do with this situation Canelo has the superior position except with the WBC title stuff (if the WBC even follows thru with that), but that isn't gonna be enough for GGG to score some sorta W over Canelo with fans if this fight doesn't happen which was the original point.
                  Your saying something his 4" skull will never get.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                    He wants the belt "whether he wins it or is anointed..." That shouldn't be said by a champion (or his team). You should want to WIN IT! That should make a lot of difference to you. Nobody likes catch-weights, but they are NOT something new. Floyd, Manny, Canelo, B-Hop, have all been in catch-weight title fights! It's not like we're asking GGG to re-invent the ****ing wheel! Go to 155 and become GREAT!
                    Great is the **** you eat every night

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                      Wow ... that must have been so thrilling for you.

                      Even better than watching Andre Ward beating the great 3 time Cuban national championship bronze medal winner Sullivan Barrera?
                      Nahh it was good to see MOST ppls P4P back in action. Are you gonna jack-off to GGG fighting the Tomamto can Wade.

                      You seem a lil slowwww. So I'm gonna tell you something that you won't admit! Dominic Wade has a ZERO% chance of winning. So your gonna be watching a human punching bag with arms letting GGG beat him up for $$$.

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