did Devin Haney sign with Top Rank?

[killakali]

Hope this is a sign of things to come with young promising guys not signing long term deals with promoters. Wonder what the effect would be on promoters if that become a reality on a larger scale?

And nice to see Haney getting some mainstream press already.

i think he is just buiding himself up to 10-0 or 12-0 before looking for a deal. he will be closer to fighting for a title so he would command more money. the fact is no promoter or manager will want to invest any money into him if they don't have him signed long term

[GrandpaBernard]

Probably cuz of short term memory's or cuz Money got paid better than Pretty Boy.

Definitely enjoyed Pretty Boy better than Money personally.

He is basically the anti Broner, he even took a shot at AB saying he would beat him up and they are entirely different.

Haney is similar to a De La Hoya/ Sugar Ray Leonard type, easily marketable, to mainstream america and could land tons of endorsement deals if he keeps his image clean.

The kid has a lot of talent though, just hope he pans out he could be the future of boxing and help the sport we need stars to keep the sport relevant, since the old guard are retiring already.

My only gripe with him is he fights like Floyd now and not like the young floyd who threw combos and was exciting, he just tries to pot shot and stick and move, if he doesn't improve his style he is not going to sell only way a good boy like that would sell is if he lays hands on fools and is exciting.

exactly. Floyd became the potshot artist to preserve his glass hands.

It's unlikely these guys have bad hands. They should be fighting like PBF

[Eff Pandas]

i think he is just buiding himself up to 10-0 or 12-0 before looking for a deal. he will be closer to fighting for a title so he would command more money. the fact is no promoter or manager will want to invest any money into him if they don't have him signed long term

Could be, definitely makes sense to keep things moving themselves at this point & work on getting a better deal down the line at a higher level. He's certainly been more active then the average prospect with a big promoter at this era point so if he's 12-0 by the end of the year he could sign with someone & slow the pace down a lil bit as he takes on better guys.

I'm just hopeful the powerful promoter boxing era ends soon I guess. I'm rooting for him freelancing his way to a title shot or putting together self promoted shows. Will see.

[killakali]

Could be, definitely makes sense to keep things moving themselves at this point & work on getting a better deal down the line at a higher level. He's certainly been more active then the average prospect with a big promoter at this era point so if he's 12-0 by the end of the year he could sign with someone & slow the pace down a lil bit as he takes on better guys.

I'm just hopeful the powerful promoter boxing era ends soon I guess. I'm rooting for him freelancing his way to a title shot or putting together self promoted shows. Will see.

hes that active because he was fighting in mexico. they just pay the opponents 300-400 for a 4 rounder. he is only making 3-4k a fight which is normal for a regular prospect at the 4 round level but guys like valdez and verdejo out of the olympics were making quite more plus monthly stipends. I remember seeing arum say jose ramirez got 100k for an 8 round fight because he had sold like 9000 tickets.

there are definitely pros and cons

[Eff Pandas]

hes that active because he was fighting in mexico. they just pay the opponents 300-400 for a 4 rounder. he is only making 3-4k a fight which is normal for a regular prospect at the 4 round level but guys like valdez and verdejo out of the olympics were making quite more plus monthly stipends. I remember seeing arum say jose ramirez got 100k for an 8 round fight because he had sold like 9000 tickets.

there are definitely pros and cons

You don't think he could be that active (a fight a month basically) in the US exclusively?

His dad is an "entrepreneur" (owns/owned a record label & boxing gym from my understanding & allegedly is/was a pimp) who I'm sure could pull together some investors for real if necessary if not do it himself to give Devin a monthly stipend & cover his training expenses. Basically he's hip to the hustle so I don't necessarily think he will sell out to a promoter at any point hence starting a promotion out of the gate.

[killakali]

You don't think he could be that active (a fight a month basically) in the US exclusively?

His dad is an "entrepreneur" (owns/owned a record label & boxing gym from my understanding & allegedly is/was a pimp) who I'm sure could pull together some investors for real if necessary if not do it himself to give Devin a monthly stipend & cover his training expenses. Basically he's hip to the hustle so I don't necessarily think he will sell out to a promoter at any point hence starting a promotion out of the gate.

they would have to buy spots eventually. i know arum commited 2-3 spots for him and they are paying his purse but like any promoter eventually he will want a return on his investment and sign him or his dad will have to start buying his spots. i could see his dad doing that for the another 8-10 4-6 rounders that are cheap but the other side of the token is what deal they can command. if they can get the money they want maybe they will be top ranks next terence crawford

[Eff Pandas]

they would have to buy spots eventually. i know arum commited 2-3 spots for him and they are paying his purse but like any promoter eventually he will want a return on his investment and sign him or his dad will have to start buying his spots. i could see his dad doing that for the another 8-10 4-6 rounders that are cheap but the other side of the token is what deal they can command. if they can get the money they want maybe they will be top ranks next terence crawford

I don't see why he'd need to pay his own purse freelancing if he can become a draw. He's already getting more press than the average 5-0 boxer so he's already got more value then most guys on a TR or whoever undercard.

Plus its not like everyone who fights on a promoters card is signed or paying for their spot. Seems like he could play promoters against each other potentially on a fight by fight basis.

Granted he probably wouldn't be able to secure TV spots a promoter gets unless he was with them or it'd be harder to get to that sorta position I suspect. He'd probably do himself solid by getting with Haymon so he can be promoter free.

[MrRolltide91]

Just watched his most recent fight

He still has tons of learning to do.

Something I don't understand is why every Floyd fan tries to fight like Money Mayweather instead of Pretty Boy Floyd

Devin doesn't really throw any combos.

His left hook and fighting at closer ranges still needs tons of work. He kept smothering himself or getting smothered.

I agree.

Stop fighting like an old man floyd

[killakali]

I don't see why he'd need to pay his own purse freelancing if he can become a draw. He's already getting more press than the average 5-0 boxer so he's already got more value then most guys on a TR or whoever undercard.

Plus its not like everyone who fights on a promoters card is signed or paying for their spot. Seems like he could play promoters against each other potentially on a fight by fight basis.

Granted he probably wouldn't be able to secure TV spots a promoter gets unless he was with them or it'd be harder to get to that sorta position I suspect. He'd probably do himself solid by getting with Haymon so he can be promoter free.

Maybe but signing with Haymon is basically signing with a promoter. He can only fight on a "Haymon promoter" card. And as we have seen those promoters hardly invest anything into building fighters into draws.

Like I said there are pros and cons. Guys like Jose Ramirez fighting at home make more than any Haymon fighter at the same level but most fighters (regardless of promoter) don't sell tickets like him or Verdejo. That plus their olympic pedigree is why they make so much early on.

Haney doesn't have near that type of following but hes just starting out. It seems to me they haven't gotten the offer they want yet or he would be signed.

I think it will be coming sooner rather than later but who knows with which promoter. I could see RNS getting him too

[Fetta]

Hope this is a sign of things to come with young promising guys not signing long term deals with promoters. Wonder what the effect would be on promoters if that become a reality on a larger scale?

And nice to see Haney getting some mainstream press already.

Been saying that for awhile now. Fighters should not be trapped into promotional contracts.

Promoters should only do what they say they do and thats promote. They shouldnt be getting as much as they do to scream the fighters name