Where does Joe Calzaghe stand in your P4P all time list?

[SouthPawHitman]

A) Calzaghe was known to slap with his punches. He was never a KO puncher.

B) James Toney has quite arguable a top 5 all time chin

C) Idk if u just never watched either guy or if you're trolling

I love both guys. Notice my sig bro?

[Teetotaler]

Easily top 5. Undefeated and beat atg's like hopkins and Roid jones

[MrTambourineMan]

My Top 10 Dish-For-Dish List of All-Time:

1. Prime Muhammad Ali 64-67
2. Sergio Martinez
3. Joe Calzaghe
4. Mikkel Kessler
5. Felix Sturm
6. Robin Reid
7. Wladimir Kiltschko
8. Ray Leonard
9. John Duddy
10. Vasyl Lomachenko

No doubt I'll come to revise this list and wank over the pictures of these hunks as I do so.

[JAB5239]

Not my list, but that of a noted poster and historian who occasionally post here, but much more on the site to the east.

Really there is no room for Zags in the top 100. His comp was just to weak in the watered down ABC era. He did have talent though and would have always been a good fighter.

01 - Sam Langford
02 - Harry Greb
03 - Sugar Ray Robinson
04 - Henry Armstrong
05 - Ezzard Charles
06 - Bob Fitzsimmons
07 - Muhammad Ali
08 - Joe Gans
09 - Joe Louis
10 - Roberto Duran.
11 - Benny Leonard
12 - Mickey Walker
13 - Willie Pep
14 - Barney Ross
15 - Archie Moore
16 - Ray Leonard
17 - George Dixon
18 - Terry McGovern
19 - Packey McFarland
20 - Pernell Whitaker
21 - Tony Canzoneri
22 - Jimmy McLarnin
23 - Sandy Saddler
24 - Stanley Ketchel
25 - Charley Burley
26 - Holman Williams
27 - Billy Conn
28 - Gene Tunney
29 - Roy Jones
30 - Joe Walcott
31 - Carlos Monzon
32 - Jimmy Wilde
33 - Eder Jofre
34 - Marvin Hagler
35 - Julio Cesar Chavez
36 - Tommy Gibbons
37 - Kid Gavilan
38 - Jack Britton
39 - Emile Griffith
40 - Jose Napoles
41 - Alexis Arguello
42 - Michael Spinks
43 - Tommy Loughran
44 - Thomas Hearns
45 - Jimmy Bivins
46 - Ike Williams
47 - Floyd Mayweather
48 - Manny Pacquiao
49 - Tommy Ryan
50 - Jack Dillon
51 - Bernard Hopkins
52 - Carlos Ortiz
53 - Fighting Harada
54 - Ruben Olivares
55 – Evander Holyfield
56 - Young Corbett III
57 - Mike Gibbons
58 – Ted Kid Lewis
59 - Freddie Welsh
60 - Freddie Steele
61 - Lou Ambers
62 - Salvador Sanchez
63 - Wilfredo Gomez
64 - Vicente Saldivar
65 - Rocky Marciano
66 - Abe Attell
67 - Manuel Ortiz
68 - Harold Johnson
69 - **** Tiger
70 - Luis Manuel Rodriguez
71 - Carmen Basilio
72 - Carlos Zarate
73 - Miguel Canto
74 - Oscar De La Hoya
75 - Azumah Nelson
76 - Mike McCallum
77 - Lary Holmes
78 - Bob Foster
79 - Teddy Yarosz
80 - Jim Driscoll
81 - Panama Al Brown
82 - Pascual Perez
83 - Lloyd Marshall
84 – Jake LaMotta
85 - Juan Manuel Marquez
86 – Wilfred Benitez
87 – Nonpareil Jack Dempsey
88 – Erik Morales
89 – Marco Antonio Barrera
90 - Young Griffo
91 - Fritzie Zivic
92 - Joe Frazier
93 - Pete Herman
94 - Lennox Lewis
95 - Jack "Kid" Berg
96 - Philadelphia Jack O'Brien
97 - James Toney
98 - Nicolino Locche
99 - Jung Koo Chang
100-George Foreman

[DreamerUSA]

A) Calzaghe was known to slap with his punches. He was never a KO puncher.

B) James Toney has quite arguable a top 5 all time chin

C) Idk if u just never watched either guy or if you're trolling

So much this. Toney has never been stopped in like 90 fights from MW to HW. Hell he has only been down once or twice as far as I can remember. Dude has a chin forged by the Gods.

As to the OP. He would'nt crack my top 100, but he probably would'nt be far outside of it. Hardly a slight considering the amount of fighters there have been.

[monkeyboy]

So much this. Toney has never been stopped in like 90 fights from MW to HW. Hell he has only been down once or twice as far as I can remember. Dude has a chin forged by the Gods.

As to the OP. He would'nt crack my top 100, but he probably would'nt be far outside of it. Hardly a slight considering the amount of fighters there have been.

I really don't like Calzaghe. He's arrogant and thick as pigs hit.

He was a bloody good boxer though. Considering he had China hands (he had a solid punch in earlier career and towards the end couldn't even spar) he managed incredibly well with slaps and a monster engine. His slap stats were through the roof. Great chin too.

He might sc**** in to the top 100. Better than all 168ers except Ward (and possibly DeGale if he has a good few more years).

[Æthelstan]

top 25 all-time great

very underrated

Joe was linear champion in two divisions at the same time

[Larry the boss]

i will never respect a man who can't punch their way out of a wet paper bag. soft ass, slappy ass.

Tell that to Jeff Lacy [IMG]http://i200.***********.com/albums/aa24/elitesoldier2/lacysucks.jpg[/IMG]

[K-Nan]

Not my list, but that of a noted poster and historian who occasionally post here, but much more on the site to the east.

Really there is no room for Zags in the top 100. His comp was just to weak in the watered down ABC era. He did have talent though and would have always been a good fighter.

01 - Sam Langford
02 - Harry Greb
03 - Sugar Ray Robinson
04 - Henry Armstrong
05 - Ezzard Charles
06 - Bob Fitzsimmons
07 - Muhammad Ali
08 - Joe Gans
09 - Joe Louis
10 - Roberto Duran.
11 - Benny Leonard
12 - Mickey Walker
13 - Willie Pep
14 - Barney Ross
15 - Archie Moore
16 - Ray Leonard
17 - George Dixon
18 - Terry McGovern
19 - Packey McFarland
20 - Pernell Whitaker
21 - Tony Canzoneri
22 - Jimmy McLarnin
23 - Sandy Saddler
24 - Stanley Ketchel
25 - Charley Burley
26 - Holman Williams
27 - Billy Conn
28 - Gene Tunney
29 - Roy Jones
30 - Joe Walcott
31 - Carlos Monzon
32 - Jimmy Wilde
33 - Eder Jofre
34 - Marvin Hagler
35 - Julio Cesar Chavez
36 - Tommy Gibbons
37 - Kid Gavilan
38 - Jack Britton
39 - Emile Griffith
40 - Jose Napoles
41 - Alexis Arguello
42 - Michael Spinks
43 - Tommy Loughran
44 - Thomas Hearns
45 - Jimmy Bivins
46 - Ike Williams
47 - Floyd Mayweather
48 - Manny Pacquiao
49 - Tommy Ryan
50 - Jack Dillon
51 - Bernard Hopkins
52 - Carlos Ortiz
53 - Fighting Harada
54 - Ruben Olivares
55 – Evander Holyfield
56 - Young Corbett III
57 - Mike Gibbons
58 – Ted Kid Lewis
59 - Freddie Welsh
60 - Freddie Steele
61 - Lou Ambers
62 - Salvador Sanchez
63 - Wilfredo Gomez
64 - Vicente Saldivar
65 - Rocky Marciano
66 - Abe Attell
67 - Manuel Ortiz
68 - Harold Johnson
69 - **** Tiger
70 - Luis Manuel Rodriguez
71 - Carmen Basilio
72 - Carlos Zarate
73 - Miguel Canto
74 - Oscar De La Hoya
75 - Azumah Nelson
76 - Mike McCallum
77 - Lary Holmes
78 - Bob Foster
79 - Teddy Yarosz
80 - Jim Driscoll
81 - Panama Al Brown
82 - Pascual Perez
83 - Lloyd Marshall
84 – Jake LaMotta
85 - Juan Manuel Marquez
86 – Wilfred Benitez
87 – Nonpareil Jack Dempsey
88 – Erik Morales
89 – Marco Antonio Barrera
90 - Young Griffo
91 - Fritzie Zivic
92 - Joe Frazier
93 - Pete Herman
94 - Lennox Lewis
95 - Jack "Kid" Berg
96 - Philadelphia Jack O'Brien
97 - James Toney
98 - Nicolino Locche
99 - Jung Koo Chang
100-George Foreman

This is a very interesting list. This guy has Sweet Pea WAY up there above most modern greats. Interesting choice.

[robertzimmerman]

lets see he beat ATG Hopkins and ATG Jones, and RUINED LACY CAREER

so I have him slightly above Hopkins and Jones and ahead of ward in the grand scheme of things today.

Ha!

That made me laugh out loud.