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  • I think what they meant to say is, "the Golovkin of today is better then the Golovkin of the last 25 years" and they're right.

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    • Originally posted by Irony123 View Post
      Quilin, the guy who had a draw with Lee, was in a close fight with Rosado and asked for Mayweather type of money to fight GGG.

      that's the guy that elevates Jacobs's resume above GGG's?

      i know that Nay_Sayer is a pure hater but i thought you had a little common sense, please tell it is so.
      I was asking a question.....the top 4 middleweights were GGG, Canelito, Lee, Quillin ...right? lee lost to BJS and Qullin to jacobs....right?

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      • Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
        RECENTLY...he does have a win over the highest ranked current middleweight...right? wasnt qullin #2 or 3
        I think an argument can be made that Quillin was the legit #1 contender @ 160 before losing to Jacobs. Both he and Bumlovkin beat a similar caliber of opposition with maybe Quillin having put in work against that level before the Triple Duck. He definitely was no less than #2 behind Golovkin. Jacobs' destruction of Quillin in one round trumps anything on Bumlovkin's resume. Easily.

        Fact is, I struggle to pinpoint Bumlovkin's best win. Geale? Murray? Lemieux? All underwhelming - and beating that crowd shouldn't warrant a #1 ranking @ 160 nor should it benefit Bumlovkin a spot on the list of the top 25 in the last 25 years. Those idiots over @ ESPN are either brain dead or on the take. Personally, I think it's BOTH...

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        • Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
          I was asking a question.....the top 4 middleweights were GGG, Canelito, Lee, Quillin ...right? lee lost to BJS and Qullin to jacobs....right?
          come on, you know better than that. was he top 4 on your list? all these lists are subjective. Some had Quillin up there, some had Lemiux up there (before he lost to GGG), was Mathew Maclin up there before he lost to GGG or Martin Murray?

          personally to me it looks like you were asking for a confirmation, maybe to make an argument for Jacob's having a better resume, but maybe you weren't and were just curious so let me ask you straight out, do you believe that Jacobs has a better resume than GGG based on the Quillin win?

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          • MOST NOTABLE WINS:

            Grzegorz Proksa, TKO5, 2012; Curtis Stevens, TKO8, 2013; David Lemieux, TKO8, 2015.

            LOL why are they doing this to themselves? How does a man enter the top 25 P4P of the last quarter century without a single name on his resume?

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            • Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
              pro fact round here pimpin'...trolls will do anything to pump fighters they like up

              I have my favorites but Im not gonna be inconsistent to inflate their resume....thats like me saying roy jones holds records for......

              my favorite fighter all time...him winning belts at 160,168,175 and heavy are impressive but he never unified at 160, 168.....on the flip side he gets blamed for fights that didnt happen like Eubank, Nunn, DM while GGG gets credit for fights that didnt happen

              175 Michaelcewski was lineal even though he never fought Jones....Hill beat Maske and unified, DM beat him...Jones picked up belts DM was stripped of


              Michael spinks won the lineal heavy and lt heavy...its not the same

              Bob fitzsimmons beat the man at middle, light heavy and heavy...not the same as what Jones did and Im not gonna damage the integrity of that the fighters of the past did to pump up my era or fighters i like
              No doubt. Prime Roy is without question the most unbeatable fighter I've ever seen - but his title "reign" @ 175 was a J O K E. He should have fought DM and killed that noise then he should have rematched Hopkins when they both were on top @ 175 and 160 respectively.

              Roy could have been remembered with the elite ATGs...

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              • #P4Prank: Nos. 15-11 of the past 25 years

                15. Shane Mosley
                14. Joe Calzaghe
                13. Marco Antonio Barrera
                12. Lennox Lewis
                11. Felix Trinidad


                15. Shane Mosley
                Stats & Info: Mosley is the only man to defeat Oscar De La Hoya twice, both times winning lineal world titles (welterweight in 2000 and junior middleweight in 2003).

                ESPN's take: Arguably at his best at lightweight -- eight defenses, all via KOs -- "Sugar Shane" found greater fame and fortune at welterweight and junior middleweight. His decision win against De La Hoya in their first fight, when both were in their primes, was a masterpiece of ferocious virtuosity. -- Nigel Collins

                14. Joe Calzaghe
                Stats & Info: From 1997 to 2008, Calzaghe made 21 title defenses, tied for the most in super middleweight history and tied for third-most in boxing history.

                ESPN's take: Never particularly exciting to watch -- a little too safety-first for my taste, and a pitty-pat puncher -- but there's no arguing with the numbers: 46-0, 32 KOs and 21 successful title defenses, or some of the names on his resume. Beat Roy Jones Jr., Bernard Hopkins, Mikkel Kessler and Chris Eubank, even if all-time greats Jones and Hopkins were on the other side of the hill. -- Wally Matthews

                13. Marco Antonio Barrera
                Stats & Info: Barrera's trilogy bouts with Erik Morales resulted in two Fights of the Year as nominated by the BWAA in 2000 for their first bout and 2004 for their third.

                ESPN's take: One of Mexico's all-time greats, Barrera initially was a brawler who refined his style into that of a boxer-puncher, which was never more on display than in his massive 2001 upset of Hamed to win the lineal featherweight crown. He went 2-1 in his epic trilogy with bitter rival Morales. -- Dan Rafael

                12. Lennox Lewis
                Stats & Info: Lewis won the lineal heavyweight title in 1998, becoming the first British-born boxer to become the lineal world heavyweight champion since Bob Fitzsimmons in 1897.

                ESPN's take: A cut below Holyfield and Tyson, both of whom he beat when they were well past their primes, Lewis was a very skilled and hard-punching heavyweight who would have been a tough night for a lot of past champions. KO losses to Oliver McCall and Hasim Rahman do not help his legacy, however. -- Wally Matthews

                11. Felix Trinidad
                Stats & Info: Trinidad made 15 defenses of his IBF welterweight title from 1993 to 2000, the second-most in welterweight division history.

                ESPN's take: One of the greatest finishers in boxing history, Trinidad carried his power all the way to 160 pounds. The native of Puerto Rico is adored to this day by fans for his exuberance and pride for his country. "Tito" made 15 welterweight title defenses and unified titles in two divisions. -- Brian Campbell

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                • Originally posted by Irony123 View Post
                  Quilin, the guy who had a draw with Lee
                  The draw with Lee wasn't @ 160, Genius, so it has NO BEARING WHATSOEVER on Quillin's standing @ the weight.

                  1 + 1 = 2

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                  • Golovkin shouldn't even be put above Bradley

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                    • Triple God KO's your favorite boxer. Deal with it.

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