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Golovkin declared Top 24 P4P of last 25 years
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Originally posted by therealpugilist View Postthe wba had 2 titleholders....he is not up for any record. stop trying to inflate his resume when everyone....i mean everyone..is saying the same thing...good fighter, he needs to fight better opposition.
who did he beat for the full title? when do those title defenses start? he has no record bro...deal with it....nor does hopkins
The middleweight record for most title defenses is 14....Carlos Monzon....Hagler # 2 with twelve
trinkets dont count as the WORLD titles when you did not have to even fight for it
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Originally posted by therealpugilist View Postbringing up the amatuers is an example of how truely thin his resume is at the elite level...as of today he is the number one contender to the lineal title....he holds two trinkets..nothing more or less
good fighter, potential to be great but he hasnt fought anyone to prove it
dotn bring up mayweather....people were trashing him all on this site man and the guy was a champion...not a titleholder...THE Champion at 2 weights, 11 defenses, and a titlist in 3rd before he was 30 and had 34 fights just like GGG...yet he was a coward...a ducker...this and that....comparing his resume to mayweather is even worse considering the media and casuals tried to make it seem like he fought no one...then ended his career fighting over a dozen major titlist and world champions in a row....this about lil g...Mayweather is proven....he fought 20 years across 5 weights and was lineal in 4....its not assuming with him...everyone knows he was the best
My reference to the amateur fights and professional fights is just an example oh how you can measure GGG's skill set.
you have to stick to the subject at hand, how can we debate if you keep jumping all over the place.
my points are 1) P4P lists are based on skill 2) GGG skill set is very strong, but we don't know the limit as of yet 3) His skill set was aquird and can be seen through his amateur and professional career
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Originally posted by therealpugilist View Postbringing up the amatuers is an example of how truely thin his resume is at the elite level...as of today he is the number one contender to the lineal title....he holds two trinkets..nothing more or less
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Originally posted by Nay_Sayer View PostQuoted for TRUTH...
I have my favorites but Im not gonna be inconsistent to inflate their resume....thats like me saying roy jones holds records for......
my favorite fighter all time...him winning belts at 160,168,175 and heavy are impressive but he never unified at 160, 168.....on the flip side he gets blamed for fights that didnt happen like Eubank, Nunn, DM while GGG gets credit for fights that didnt happen
175 Michaelcewski was lineal even though he never fought Jones....Hill beat Maske and unified, DM beat him...Jones picked up belts DM was stripped of
Michael spinks won the lineal heavy and lt heavy...its not the same
Bob fitzsimmons beat the man at middle, light heavy and heavy...not the same as what Jones did and Im not gonna damage the integrity of that the fighters of the past did to pump up my era or fighters i like
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Originally posted by Irony123 View Postmy points are 1) P4P lists are based on skill 2) GGG skill set is very strong, but we don't know the limit as of yet 3) His skill set was aquird and can be seen through his amateur and professional career
2) Dead WRONG again. Bumlovkin may be a good fighter but he has gaping HOLES in his skillset. His defensive liabilities and lack of an inside fight game stand out...
3) It's painfully obvious that YDKSAB. It's easy to look like the second coming of Walker Smith Jr when all you do is beat up on TOMATO CANs...
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Originally posted by therealpugilist View PostRECENTLY...he does have a win over the highest ranked current middleweight...right? wasnt qullin #2 or 3
that's the guy that elevates Jacobs's resume above GGG's?
i know that Nay_Sayer is a pure hater but i thought you had a little common sense, please tell it is so.
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Originally posted by Ray Corso View Postbetter yes or no............
Whitaker-no
Mayweather-no
Terry Norris-yes
Mike Tyson-no
Evander Holyfield-no
Rid**** Bowe-yes
James Toney-yes (at middleweight)
Manny Pacquiao-no
Erik Morales-no
Antonio Barrera-no
Juan Manuel Marquez-yes
Vitali Klitchko-yes
Wladamir Klitchko-yes
Antonio Tarver-yes
Roy jones -yes (at middleweight)
Bernard Hopkins-yes (at middleweight)
Joe Calzaghe- yes
Vernon Forrest-yes
Winky Wright-yes
Fernando Vargas-yes
Tito Trinidad-yes
Julio Ceasar Chavez-no
Oscar De La Hoya-yes
Shane Mosley even
Migel Cotto-yes
When the men considered the best in his division refuse to fight him, and thats a FACT! There must be something about him that they see that the average fan misses!
He is a very good fighter who other 160 pounders fear! Or they'd fight him.
RayWhat a clown.
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