Too Short concert or Ward-Barrera?

[Dobie G]

Dude you a seriously butthurt! Do you usually catch feelings like this over someone who doesn't know you?

Andre Ward couldn't get 10K into Oracle if Steph Curry was shooting 3's and giving away money!

Attendance for GGG's last 4 fights
GGG-Rubio at StubHub (with additional seats)- Sold out.
GGG-Monroe at The Forum - 12,372 out of 17,000 seats
GGG-Lemieux at MSG - Sold Out.
GGG-Wade - 20% of 17,000 is 3400. So by your calculation 13,600 tix have been sold with a little over a month to go. I'm betting on another sell out.

Ward is fighting in his own backyard and only 7,000 have bought tickets to see him? If you can't even sell out at home than it's safe to assume that you draw garbage crowds.

Start crying if you still think I'm being disrespectful

Usually when you are at home you sell out. Too Short got this. I never knew Kazakhstan was So Cal and NY?

Just the whole thought that one of the top 3 boxers in the world has to have someone justify his numbers show how much anyone gives a isht?

Basically you have Borat and Ward in the same state and they draw the same. Kinda sad. Andre Rigendeoux.

[Scipio2009]

Dude you a seriously butthurt! Do you usually catch feelings like this over someone who doesn't know you?

Andre Ward couldn't get 10K into Oracle if Steph Curry was shooting 3's and giving away money!

Attendance for GGG's last 4 fights
GGG-Rubio at StubHub (with additional seats)- Sold out.
GGG-Monroe at The Forum - 12,372 out of 17,000 seats
GGG-Lemieux at MSG - Sold Out.
GGG-Wade - 20% of 17,000 is 3400. So by your calculation 13,600 tix have been sold with a little over a month to go. I'm betting on another sell out.

Ward is fighting in his own backyard and only 7,000 have bought tickets to see him? If you can't even sell out at home than it's safe to assume that you draw garbage crowds.

Start crying if you still think I'm being disrespectful

note: StubHub(with additional seats) likely amounted to 9k tickets sold (with everyone pushing Golovkin as a faux Mexican scrapper, for whatever reason); in case you were looking for a number.

Oracle Arena likely seat 20k-21k people for a full house, with 11k-12k to fill the lower bowl, and the numbers for the fight, as they've done for every other Ward fight will continue to trek up over the next two weeks, likely putting another 10k into his building (figures that he was able to do for the Kessler, Dawson, and Smith fights).

At least Golovkin has proven that an incessant marketing push on TV actually will help a fighter grow an audience, regardless of whom they're actually fighting.

[Dobie G]

note: StubHub(with additional seats) likely amounted to 9k tickets sold (with everyone pushing Golovkin as a faux Mexican scrapper, for whatever reason); in case you were looking for a number.

Oracle Arena likely seat 20k-21k people for a full house, with 11k-12k to fill the lower bowl, and the numbers for the fight, as they've done for every other Ward fight will continue to trek up over the next two weeks, likely putting another 10k into his building (figures that he was able to do for the Kessler, Dawson, and Smith fights).

At least Golovkin has proven that an incessant marketing push on TV actually will help a fighter grow an audience, regardless of whom they're actually fighting.

You are not understanding (or maybe you choose not to) that he's from Russia and don't get it twisted, Showtime was all over Ward. He's not only from America but from Oakland. The reason there is no more of a push for Ward is he sued and lost to his promoter and has been out of the game for the most part of three years.

10k at home? Crawford is from Nebraska is pulls more and he never won the Super 6.

Tell me one thing I said that is not true?

[Dobie G]

Ward has the fan base of a USC basketball fan. They exist and are in the tourney but nobody cares. He's a great fighter and if he beats Kov, he might get some more butts in seats. Still, even if he does, he's kinda a Winky Wight. Nobody but you cares.

[Dobie G]

Oh and how do you get NO rating for a boxing match? Oh, because you are so ****** that you lose a great promoter (passing) and then sue and end up on BET. That's like Peyton Manning ending up on the HSN for a Charger game.

He will go down potentially as a great fighter but so? Nobody will care. He's basically a walking Woody Allen movie. Nobody but the hardcore fanbase cares and even they will wait until he's on video.

[Nubia]

Oh and how do you get NO rating for a boxing match? Oh, because you are so ****** that you lose a great promoter (passing) and then sue and end up on BET. That's like Peyton Manning ending up on the HSN for a Charger game.

He will go down potentially as a great fighter but so? Nobody will care. He's basically a walking Woody Allen movie. Nobody but the hardcore fanbase cares and even they will wait until he's on video.

That's your opinion. A lot of people hold Ward in high regards. He's the P4P #1 in the entire sport. People still watch him in person or on TV.

[Scipio2009]

You are not understanding (or maybe you choose not to) that he's from Russia and don't get it twisted, Showtime was all over Ward. He's not only from America but from Oakland. The reason there is no more of a push for Ward is he sued and lost to his promoter and has been out of the game for the most part of three years.

10k at home? Crawford is from Nebraska is pulls more and he never won the Super 6.

Tell me one thing I said that is not true?

-Gennady Golovkin is from Kazakhstan, though moved to Germany to start his pro career (where he stayed for 8 years), before bringing his entire family over and settling in Los Angeles for the last two year, where he's likely to keep his family for the foreseeable future; where you got Russia from is beyond me.

-Showtime was for sure behind Andre Ward, but they were also a channel only available in 18m homes by 2011, compared to the 28m homes that had HBO in 2011 (and the 36m homes that have HBO as of July 2015).

http://www.economist.com/node/21526314

-Terrence Crawford does put more people in his building than Ward does, but his last fight was priced $27/$52/$77/$127, likely doing less than half the gate business that Ward has done in Oakland.

context is key

[Zaroku]

There are enough fans in the Bay Area

[Dobie G]

That's your opinion. A lot of people hold Ward in high regards. He's the P4P #1 in the entire sport. People still watch him in person or on TV.

I called him top 3 so is that disrespect? As for people watching him... really? No.

[Dobie G]

There are enough fans in the Bay Area to fill both venue's

And yet it has NEVER happened.