The Penalty For Being Too Good (Rigondeaux, Golovkin, Ward)

[-PBP-]

this is exactly what GGG is trying to do but he gets a lot of Flak for it. For ward this is where he messed up he should have taken that fight against Bute, knowing what we know now it would have been his win and he would be the proud owner of the SMW division.

I don't think people criticize him for wanting to unify. I think the frustration is taking step aside fees and fighting inferior opposition in hopes Canelo would choose him. The belt could've been his long ago.

[original zero]

this is exactly what GGG is trying to do but he gets a lot of Flak for it. For ward this is where he messed up he should have taken that fight against Bute, knowing what we know now it would have been his win and he would be the proud owner of the SMW division.

if GGG stays the course, the flak will dissipate.

but GGG hurt his credibility by accepting the step aside. he should be a triple crown world champion right now, but instead he's waiting around for canelo like a fool. he's showing unnecessary weakness. from day 1 he should have taken the position that he doesn't need canelo and if canelo moves to middleweight, he is the gate keeper.

[MDPopescu]

GGG - Passed on opportunity to become 2 division world champion and #1 P4P fighter in the world.

What opportunity? The opportunity to wait indefinitely until the Murdock and Brand fights would have had been made?

[-PBP-]

you don't have to unify all of the titles for this strategy to be effective. klitschko never unified all of the titles.

it does take balls though. to have the confidence in yourself that you can keep winning over the long haul instead of chasing the one big payday.

rigondeaux, golovkin and ward weren't punished for being too good. rigondeaux was punished for being boring and ward was punished for pursuing a counter productive legal strategy. as for golovkin, he's on the verge of superstardom, but his team made a big mistake by making themselves subservient to canelo. taking that step aside money put him in this awkard limbo he's in now. he never should have let canelo get that belt. was very foolish. i know the step aside money was large, but it was still short sighted.

Wlad's brother held the 4th piece so essentially you had to go through him to get the titles. Regardless, if Frampton, Quigg, Santa Cruz, etc. felt they could take Rigo's two titles, they would've done so long ago. The "boring" label is PR move to avoid him. "Why would we fight him? It wouldn't be a good fight to make for YOU the fans."

But regardless, none of them have gone out of their comfort zone and that's why their careers are stagnant. You got to be a risk taker to get ahead in this game.

[-PBP-]

What opportunity? The opportunity to wait indefinitely until the Murdock and Brand fights would have had been made?

SMH...I'm not getting into this again. We will not reach an agreement so let's just dead it here.

[The Big Dunn]

Wow. This guy is living in his own fantasy. He even lies about some silly video evidence. HBO offered the fight to both fighters about two years ago and Ward turned it down. Your ****** fantasy about HBO protecting GG is just that. Fantasy.

Doe all you need is common sense. Ward never made any effort to make the fight happen. That's fact.

He made a last minute offer just recently, not one or two years ago. THAT'S FACT. And he made it when the Lemieux fight was already in the midst of being promoted. Meaning, he made it just to save face.

Where was he after the Monroe fight? Or when Team GG was looking desperately for fights? He's blowing up smoke.

You clowns should stop saying fight could have happened. The offer was only made RECENTLY. Funny part is the offer had ****** conditions aside from the 50/50. Like he needs 3 tuneups first and the fight is supposed to happen a year or so later. This is unprecedented. Nowhere in boxing history can you find a fighter offering someone a fight when he's already fighting someone else. What if he loses?

These ****** pre-offers are exclusively Ward. The guy has become a clown and a huge joke.

You left out a lot of other things that happened. ON fight game Lampley said GGG/Ward is not the fight people want to see but GGG/Canelo is. He also said the same thing post fight, with ward standing next to him. If you think that is a lie, so be it. Video is available.

Andre Ward would be favored against GGG so we know why HBO didn't want them to fight. If you feel otherwise, fine.

[-PBP-]

When you need to write epic titangraphs explaining why a fight didn't happen.......Your favorite fighter failed you.


Trust me. Explaining Floyd's "retirement", not fighting Margarito and the 6 year delay in fighting Manny was a chore. It's best to just accept that your favorite fighter is a business man making risk/reward decisions like the rest of them.

[Irony123]

I don't think people criticize him for wanting to unify. I think the frustration is taking step aside fees and fighting inferior opposition in hopes Canelo would choose him. The belt could've been his long ago.

I know he took a step aside fee to have Canelo and Cotto fight (can't recall if he took one for Geale) that being said he still unified a title when he took that step aside fee to let cotto fight Canelo. If he takes another step aside fee then it wouldn't be defendable, not like the other ones are but he was at least able to accomplish something when he didn't force to have Cotto stripped.

[Irony123]

if GGG stays the course, the flak will dissipate.

but GGG hurt his credibility by accepting the step aside. he should be a triple crown world champion right now, but instead he's waiting around for canelo like a fool. he's showing unnecessary weakness. from day 1 he should have taken the position that he doesn't need canelo and if canelo moves to middleweight, he is the gate keeper.

Did he take a step aside fee after Canelo became champion? i know they agreed on marinating the fight which is really BS and he should have just taken the belt but i am thinking in hopes of getting his biggest pay day he agreed to this ****** deal. i know he took a step aside for Cotto and Canelo to happen but in turn he unified another title which is reasonable... he couldn't fight for both at the same time anyway. dont recall if he took a step aside for Geal to fight Cotto however.

[-PBP-]

I know he took a step aside fee to have Canelo and Cotto fight (can't recall if he took one for Geale) that being said he still unified a title when he took that step aside fee to let cotto fight Canelo. If he takes another step aside fee then it wouldn't be defendable, not like the other ones are but he was at least able to accomplish something when he didn't force to have Cotto stripped.

That type of info is confidential. Remember they threatened to sue Cotto for saying it in the media? But if he didn't get paid to allow Khan/Canelo to happen then shame on his team.