Bottom Line. Do you think GGG can beat Canelo at 155?

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #141
    Originally posted by El-blanco
    If that's all it is then it's a hollow accomplishment if they don't continue to fight the number one guys and people shouldn't consider them the true champion. I personally think if the true champ/lineal champ refuses to fight his number one contender then he's no longer the true/lineal champ. That's how it was back in the day when there was only one belt.
    Well that's fair enough you're entitled to class him as whatever you want but the fact remains he's the Lineal Champ until he's beaten. That's the way it is, always has been and always will be.

    I don't like it but I don't have a choice.

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    • hugh grant
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      #142
      Originally posted by Deevel916
      The CW for Pac/Cotto was understandable as Cotto is the MUCH bigger man on fight night.

      Why is Canelo who is the bigger man on fight night requesting a CW from the smaller man on fight night?
      I don't know other than nelo thinks he can fight better in a drained state than GGG can. Nelo is used to it, floyd gave him practice.

      But gggseems to have to make nelo seem as the a side, so maybe should, then ruin the kid in the ring.
      Last edited by hugh grant; 03-03-2016, 03:11 PM.

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      • QballLobo
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        #143
        All I hear from GGG fans is how easy of a fight Canelo will be for him. If that's the case then 155 should not make a difference. GGG should take the weight and embarrass Canelo at his own weight preference. Would be the ultimate legacy victory and he could force whatever weight he wanted for a rematch or any other fight.

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        • -Hyperion-
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          #144
          It's impossible to tell how GGG will look at a weight he's never fought at. He deserves to get some mockery for claiming he could make it, but we haven't actually seen him at the weight and nothing chnges that. As long as Alvarez holds a middleweight belt and balloons up 15 lb's on fight night, he's a pu55y.

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          • hugh grant
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            #145
            Originally posted by QballLobo
            All I hear from GGG fans is how easy of a fight Canelo will be for him. If that's the case then 155 should not make a difference. GGG should take the weight and embarrass Canelo at his own weight preference. Would be the ultimate legacy victory and he could force whatever weight he wanted for a rematch or any other fight.
            Yes GGG could do that. But in the meantime nelo will be ripped to pieces verbally by people, he's the new cw king
            Last edited by hugh grant; 03-03-2016, 03:58 PM.

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            • b00g13man
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              #146
              Originally posted by LetOutTheCage
              FTFY. I cant believe you like Froch but hate on GGG smh.
              Froch has actually been in with elite opponents. He was matched tough.

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              • techliam
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                #147
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                Well that's fair enough you're entitled to class him as whatever you want but the fact remains he's the Lineal Champ until he's beaten. That's the way it is, always has been and always will be.

                I don't like it but I don't have a choice.
                Lineal titles have to be legitimised the same way ABC titles do

                The sole aim for a world title is to show the best. It's a severe flaw in the lineal system that prevents it from being prevalent in the sport

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                • B-Bomber
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                  #148
                  There is only one way to find out... make the fight happen.

                  In a perfect world, the fight should be at 160, obviously.

                  In this world, the fight is at whatever weight Canelo wants it, for a number of reasons. In no particular order.

                  1) Canelo is younger, the more the fight "marinates", the better for him
                  2) He is more known and has a bigger paying fanbase
                  3) He already fought Floyd and Cotto and made big money, GGG hasn't
                  4) Even if he is hated on by people or stripped by the WBC, his fans will defend him and his haters would be very likely to pay, hoping to see him lose -if- he ever needs/wants to fight GGG.


                  In short, Canelo can wait, he can afford some hate and has already fought big names. GGG cannot wait he hasn't fought anybody noteworthy.

                  If GGG wants the fight to happen, he'll most likely have to negotiate a catchweight.

                  Let's be clear though, 155 is bs.
                  Canelo is draining himself to make that weight.

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                  • Joe Beamish
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                    #149
                    I don't think they'll fight each other, Canelo and Golovkin. One guy keeps saying he isn't a MW, and the other guy has fought nowhere else.

                    WBC won't strip Canelo, I can guarantee you. If Golovkin holds to 160, Canelo will walk away keeping the belt and leave Golovkin in the dirt.

                    Fair? Nope. But that's boxing today.

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                    • IronDanHamza
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by techliam
                      Lineal titles have to be legitimised the same way ABC titles do

                      The sole aim for a world title is to show the best. It's a severe flaw in the lineal system that prevents it from being prevalent in the sport
                      That's the thing, it doesn't. The ABC titles have rankings, sanction bodies, mandatories, they have rules.

                      The Lineage doesn't. The Lineal is just simply tracing the Lineage. No more no less.

                      Another poster said it earlier, the Lineal titles credibility is getting weaker by the day. For this reason exactly.

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