Bottom Line. Do you think GGG can beat Canelo at 155?
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Nope if he could he would.
and this is why...
- He was willing to move up a full weight division to fight Chavez or Froch because he BELIEVED he would win, but he would not move up that same amount to face Ward cause he DOESN'T BELIEVE he can win.
- Hes willing to move up a full weight class to face Bernard Hopkins cause he BELIEVES he will win.
- He was willing for a catchweight against Rosado, you know why? he BELIEVED he would win, but he would not face Canelo at a catchweight because he does not BELIEVE he will win.
- He was willing to drop a full weight class to face Pacquaio or Mayweather cause he BELIEVES he would win
You see the pattern, its clear as day! GGG has absolutely no issue fighting at catchweights or even jumping full weight classes or dropping full weight classes if he BELIEVES he can win, its when he DOESN'T BELIEVE he can win is when he has an issue against it.
And that Ladies and Gentlemen, Damas y Caballeros
is how Anybody from 154-168 turns into 160-164 Real Quick!
Sources
Gabriel Rosado says he never asked for a catchweight to face middleweight titlist Gennady Golovkin, and has officially rejected a maximum weight of 158 pounds to fight at the full 160-pound weight limit.
http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/329001-gennady-golovkin-3
http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/07/golovkins-promoter-we-never-asked-froch-for-a-catch-weight-were-clear-at-168/
Promoter Tom Loeffler of K2 Promotions, who handle IBO/WBA middleweight champion Gennady "GGG" Golovkin (33-0, 30 KOs), says a fight can certainly be worked out with WBA super middleweight king Andre Ward (28-0, 15 KOs). But the deal would have to be under Golovkin's terms and not dictated by Ward. Loeffler feels Golovkin has surpassed Ward as a ticket seller and in terms of name recognition - making GGG the A-side of the negotiations.
http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/11/golovkin-no-chance-ill-fight-at-155-for-canelo/
http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/03/loeffler-golovkin-would-come-down-to-154-for-mayweather-or-pacquiao-fight/Comment
- He was willing to move up a full weight division to fight Chavez or Froch because he BELIEVED he would win, but he would not move up that same amount to face Ward cause he DOESN'T BELIEVE he can win.
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That would make the so called boxing biggest star look like a stubborn pvssy, don't you think?Comment
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Nope if he could he would.
and this is why...
- He was willing to move up a full weight division to fight Chavez or Froch because he BELIEVED he would win, but he would not move up that same amount to face Ward cause he DOESN'T BELIEVE he can win.
- Hes willing to move up a full weight class to face Bernard Hopkins cause he BELIEVES he will win.
- He was willing for a catchweight against Rosado, you know why? he BELIEVED he would win, but he would not face Canelo at a catchweight because he does not BELIEVE he will win.
- He was willing to drop a full weight class to face Pacquaio or Mayweather cause he BELIEVES he would win
You see the pattern, its clear as day! GGG has absolutely no issue fighting at catchweights or even jumping full weight classes or dropping full weight classes if he BELIEVES he can win, its when he DOESN'T BELIEVE he can win is when he has an issue against it.
And that Ladies and Gentlemen, Damas y Caballeros
is how Anybody from 154-168 turns into 160-164 Real Quick!
Sources
Gabriel Rosado says he never asked for a catchweight to face middleweight titlist Gennady Golovkin, and has officially rejected a maximum weight of 158 pounds to fight at the full 160-pound weight limit.
http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/329001-gennady-golovkin-3
http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/07/golovkins-promoter-we-never-asked-froch-for-a-catch-weight-were-clear-at-168/
Promoter Tom Loeffler of K2 Promotions, who handle IBO/WBA middleweight champion Gennady "GGG" Golovkin (33-0, 30 KOs), says a fight can certainly be worked out with WBA super middleweight king Andre Ward (28-0, 15 KOs). But the deal would have to be under Golovkin's terms and not dictated by Ward. Loeffler feels Golovkin has surpassed Ward as a ticket seller and in terms of name recognition - making GGG the A-side of the negotiations.
http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/11/golovkin-no-chance-ill-fight-at-155-for-canelo/
http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/03/loeffler-golovkin-would-come-down-to-154-for-mayweather-or-pacquiao-fight/
Nice analysis. Green K sent. Spend it wisely, refugee.Comment
- He was willing to move up a full weight division to fight Chavez or Froch because he BELIEVED he would win, but he would not move up that same amount to face Ward cause he DOESN'T BELIEVE he can win.
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Mmm, na, not really, it's already been done before him. On top of the fighters I have already mentioned, and the examples of ATG's i've mentioned, also Leonard brought down WBC 175 champ Lalonde to 168 and fought for both the vacant WBC 168 title and Lalonde's WBC 175 title. SRL's career ended up just fine, he had already fought Hall of Famers and he didn't have to prove his toughness in the sport anymore.Comment
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Golovkin weighed 165 at 30 day weighin in his last fight. Him moving up isn't an issue because he has no problem making 160. I think it's funny people demand for him to move up when he makes middleweight with ease. Fighter like Danny Garcia is a perfect example of "having to move up a weight class" because he spent almost two years fighting phony catchweights above junior welterweight. Eventually Danny will fight a real welterweight and get sparked the fk out.Comment
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Lol you make me laugh. Your inability to think clearly is hilarious.Mmm, na, not really, it's already been done before him. On top of the fighters I have already mentioned, and the examples of ATG's i've mentioned, also Leonard brought down WBC 175 champ Lalonde to 168 and fought for both the vacant WBC 168 title and Lalonde's WBC 175 title. SRL's career ended up just fine, he had already fought Hall of Famers and he didn't have to prove his toughness in the sport anymore.
It wouldn't make him look bad? It already is!Comment
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Very good post, solid points.Nope if he could he would.
and this is why...
- He was willing to move up a full weight division to fight Chavez or Froch because he BELIEVED he would win, but he would not move up that same amount to face Ward cause he DOESN'T BELIEVE he can win.
- Hes willing to move up a full weight class to face Bernard Hopkins cause he BELIEVES he will win.
- He was willing for a catchweight against Rosado, you know why? he BELIEVED he would win, but he would not face Canelo at a catchweight because he does not BELIEVE he will win.
- He was willing to drop a full weight class to face Pacquaio or Mayweather cause he BELIEVES he would win
You see the pattern, its clear as day! GGG has absolutely no issue fighting at catchweights or even jumping full weight classes or dropping full weight classes if he BELIEVES he can win, its when he DOESN'T BELIEVE he can win is when he has an issue against it.
And that Ladies and Gentlemen, Damas y Caballeros
is how Anybody from 154-168 turns into 160-164 Real Quick!
Sources
Gabriel Rosado says he never asked for a catchweight to face middleweight titlist Gennady Golovkin, and has officially rejected a maximum weight of 158 pounds to fight at the full 160-pound weight limit.
http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/329001-gennady-golovkin-3
http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/07/golovkins-promoter-we-never-asked-froch-for-a-catch-weight-were-clear-at-168/
Promoter Tom Loeffler of K2 Promotions, who handle IBO/WBA middleweight champion Gennady "GGG" Golovkin (33-0, 30 KOs), says a fight can certainly be worked out with WBA super middleweight king Andre Ward (28-0, 15 KOs). But the deal would have to be under Golovkin's terms and not dictated by Ward. Loeffler feels Golovkin has surpassed Ward as a ticket seller and in terms of name recognition - making GGG the A-side of the negotiations.
http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/11/golovkin-no-chance-ill-fight-at-155-for-canelo/
http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/03/loeffler-golovkin-would-come-down-to-154-for-mayweather-or-pacquiao-fight/Comment
- He was willing to move up a full weight division to fight Chavez or Froch because he BELIEVED he would win, but he would not move up that same amount to face Ward cause he DOESN'T BELIEVE he can win.
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1 belt may be nothing (according to forum posters, not fighters) but 3 is something. If some of them come via forfeit, its almost as good. That's several lineal champs that felt they had no chance at all. Won't hurt his standing as #2 draw in America, after Pac and Cotto retireOkay, we will see, if Canelo/GBP offer them a fight and they decline because they don't want to fight below 160 limit, we will see if the WBC compensates the crybaby B-sides that don't want to play their B-side role like everyone else. Worse comes to worse and WBC uncharacteristically disciplines Canelo by stripping the belt from him despite making an offer to K2, it will still be a Winky Wright moment for GGG for missing out on a huge PPV, big money, and a chance to move up in his career. So he gets the vacant WBC title and continues his 160 run, yeah then what, it will mean absolutely nothing in his career. Any top contender can get a title nowadays, there's 4 titles, it means nothing. The fighters make the title what they are. Canelo winning the title from Cotto will mean a lot more than GGG getting the title handed to him like when he fought Milton Nunez or whoever it was that got him the WBA belt, Nilson Julio Tapia, who the hell really cares, it was a hand out.Comment
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