Floyd Mayweather says B-Side Golovkin should face Canelo at 155

[Nubia]

Fantastic!

Are you George Zimmerman's brother?

[firstborn]

Canelo defended his 154 belts at 152 to secure the Mayweather fight, despite being a huge draw himself.

I understand the Golovkin stance, but bigger names have made concessions in search of legacy fights.

I agree, in a perfect world, GGG wouldn't have to meet Canelo's demands. But this is real life and Canleo is in control for the moment. GGG can settle for mediocrity by defending against a host of unknown mandatories or he can sacrifice a little and place himself in the driver's seat...

[Dip_Slide]

What are you talking about?

Almost everyone of your examples has a fighter moving up to chase greatness.

Yet you're criticising GG for not moving DOWN to fight for the lineal belt?

You should be using your examples to criticise Canelo for not moving up, even though he weighs in as a LHW on fight night.

Canelo has moved into GG's pond, it's not the other way around.

Read my post again, I said Bernard Hopkins, who was the man at 160 for many many years, he was the lineal WBC, WBA and IBF world champion and one of the best P4P, moved DOWN to 156 to fight the WBO champ Oscar dela Hoya, who was the cashcow at the time, and Hopkins is clearly a bigger middleweight than GGG, and then Bhop moved up to 175 and fought Tarver and kept fluctuating in weight to fight the best fighters around st 40+ years of age, meanwhile GGG is fighting the Monroes and the Wades of the world.

If GGG is not willing to make the necessary sacrifices to become a superstar then he probably won't ever become one, he's gonna have to earn his spot like everybody else before him, just because he belongs to a certain group of people or vecause he had a good amateur record 10-11 years ago, doesn't make him by any means a great pro, he's a good fighter though, but his accomplishments and attitude doesn't reflect his skills and talent.

[Dip_Slide]

Shouldn't have Floyd faced Canelo at 154 doe????

Canelo didn't have to fight him at all, but Canelo to his credit proposed a catchweight of 150 just to get the fight with the biggest ppv star in the sport, at least he tried to make the sacrifice to become a great star, if losing 2 extra lbs in a 12 week training camp is the only way then it is what it is!

[robertzimmerman]

Are you George Zimmerman's brother?

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[robertzimmerman]

Read my post again, I said Bernard Hopkins, who was the man at 160 for many many years, he was the lineal WBC, WBA and IBF world champion and one of the best P4P, moved DOWN to 156 to fight the WBO champ Oscar dela Hoya, who was the cashcow at the time, and Hopkins is clearly a bigger middleweight than GGG, and then Bhop moved up to 175 and fought Tarver and kept fluctuating in weight to fight the best fighters around st 40+ years of age, meanwhile GGG is fighting the Monroes and the Wades of the world.

If GGG is not willing to make the necessary sacrifices to become a superstar then he probably won't ever become one, he's gonna have to earn his spot like everybody else before him, just because he belongs to a certain group of people or vecause he had a good amateur record 10-11 years ago, doesn't make him by any means a great pro, he's a good fighter though, but his accomplishments and attitude doesn't reflect his skills and talent.

I've read your post.

Yes, I know Bernard went down for Oscar. But the circumstances were still very different.

[Dip_Slide]

I've read your post.

Yes, I know Bernard went down for Oscar. But the circumstances were still very different.

How are the circumstances "very different"? Oscar was the cashcow just like Canelo and Hopkins was the best at 160 who wanted a big fight just like GGG, I actually think GGG needs Canelo now more than Hopkins ever needed Dela Hoya.

[robertzimmerman]

How are the circumstances "very different"? Oscar was the cashcow just like Canelo and Hopkins was the best at 160 who wanted a big fight just like GGG, I actually think GGG needs Canelo now more than Hopkins ever needed Dela Hoya.

How were the circumstances different?

Did Oscar move up to MW, win the lineal belt, and then state he'd only defend it at a CW?

I've got no respect for Bernard doing that anyway. He shrunk himself down to MW to fight in a weak division for years, when he could have fought better opponents at SMW-LHW.

He's 6'1, with a 75" reach.

Beating Oscar who'd looked like **** against Sturm was no amazing feat.

[Dip_Slide]

How were the circumstances different?

Did Oscar move up to MW, win the lineal belt, and then state he'd only defend it at a CW?

I've got no respect for Bernard doing that anyway. He shrunk himself down to MW to fight in a weak division for years, when he could have fought better opponents at SMW-LHW.

He's 6'1, with a 75" reach.

Beating Oscar who'd looked like **** against Sturm was no amazing feat.

U r proving my point, GGG has more incentive to face Canelo than Hopkins had when he faced Dela Hoya since it was all about the money as Hopkins was already the lineal champ.

Dela did something very similar to Canelo, he moved up, won a title and defended it at a catchweight, principally Canelo should've been stripped and the title could've been given to GGG and then GGG should've gone down and fought Canelo as a champion, but we know the WBC are thirsty for the sanctioning fees and they won't do that to Canelo.

And you discrediting Hopkins because he was a big middleweight shows ur ignorance about the sport, so Tommy Hearns doesn't deserve credit because he was a big WW? What aböut Ali or Lewis who almost always were bigger than their opponents, educate urself please before u come out here and start hating on legends.

[robertzimmerman]

U r proving my point, GGG has more incentive to face Canelo than Hopkins had when he faced Dela Hoya since it was all about the money as Hopkins was already the lineal champ.

Dela did something very similar to Canelo, he moved up, won a title and defended it at a catchweight, principally Canelo should've been stripped and the title could've been given to GGG and then GGG should've gone down and fought Canelo as a champion, but we know the WBC are thirsty for the sanctioning fees and they won't do that to Canelo.

And you discrediting Hopkins because he was a big middleweight shows ur ignorance about the sport, so Tommy Hearns doesn't deserve credit because he was a big WW? What aböut Ali or Lewis who almost always were bigger than their opponents, educate urself please before u come out here and start hating on legends.

I understand your point perfectly.

GG is getting on in age, and he desperately needs a huge fight. But just because Bernard cashed out against Oscar, it doesn't mean that GG should have to drop to a CW to fight for the lineal belt as the mandatory challenger. It's wrong, and boxing is already at a low, without sinking any lower.

I'm discrediting Bernard because he wasn't a natural MW. He made incredible sacrifices both mentally and physically to fight in a weak division for 12 years, where he enjoyed physical advantages over most of his opponents, when he could have been mixing with SMW's and LHW's in stronger divisions. There was nothing great about that. He only moved up to LHW in 2006, because he'd lost to Taylor twice and he had nothing to lose and everything to gain. He had no intentions of fighting the Kovalev's of the world in his 30's. He wouldn't even rematch Roy at a CW after he'd unified at MW. He admitted in 2008, that he could have moved up to LHW 6 years earlier had he have wanted to. I respect the hell out of his longevity, but I don't think his MW career should be celebrated too highly.