who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

[ADP02]

ADP is just a troller taking the piss. He on record numerous times for citing Conte yet ALWAYS ignores whenever I point out the actual youtube world video where Conte verbally states Pac roided.

Doesn't even attempt to ever dispute it.

That's not a coward, that's more of a loser. Wimp.

Actually I'm not ignoring anything. I responded to you about all that like 1 day ago.

You are ignoring what Conte said about Floyd's IV scandal ....... troller!

[Lester Tutor]

Actually I'm not ignoring anything. I responded to you about all that like 1 day ago.

You are ignoring what Conte said about Floyd's IV scandal ....... troller!

Yeah I have bigger **** than you because at least I cited the actual video where Conte stated Pac was roided. Whereas all you do is criticize or insinuate Conte expressing how he doesn't like the term of Olympic style drug testing in boxing, which we all know is out of context when the reality what he's saying has nothing to do with the 3 main tests performed for May vs Pac.

So yes, I have a bigger shlong than you. I'm the Grinch that needs to put you in your place.

[GTTofAK]

The use of IV infusions in sport is commonly linked with rehydration after exhaustive effort, and this situation is arguably the major cause of debate. It must be understood that the use of IV fluid replacement following exercise to correct mild to moderate dehydration is not clinically indicated nor substantiated by the medical literature. There is a well-established body of scientific evidence to confirm that oral rehydration is the preferred the****utic choice, potentially even more effective than IV infusion.

Oh look at that the moron bolded some stuff red. And made some vague ****ing statement because he reads at a 4th grade level. News flash you ****ing idiot. The references WADA uses specifically defines sever dehydration.

Time allowing, euhydration can be achieved in the vast majority of individuals by drinking and eating normal beverages and meals.29 If rapid recovery from dehydration is desired, one should ingest 1.5 L of fluid for each kilogram of body weight lost. Replacing 150% of body weight loss over 60 minutes has been tolerated without complications.68 Even though the majority of cases of dehydration can be treated via oral consumption, IV treatment of severe dehydration (>7% body weight loss), exertional heat illness, nausea, emesis, or diarrhea, and in those who cannot ingest oral fluids for other reasons, is clinically indicated.2,3,7,23,68 Otherwise, as the American College of Sports Medicine consensus guidelines state, "IV fluids do not provide an advantage over drinking oral fluids and electrolytes."

Now shut the **** up you ****ing alt. You think no one has noticed that you are one of travesty's alts?

[GTTofAK]

"For moderate or severe cases of dehydration, the body may not respond to attempts to rehydrate orally. A doctor, or emergency medical professionals, can decide whether IV rehydration is needed. Adults may become dehydrated from being sick or from exercising vigorously without drinking enough water."
http://www.healthline.com/health/int...tion#Overview2

Wow a website! You think that trumps actually ****ing medical journals you moron.

Go suck on a *******.

[GTTofAK]

Was this the groundbreaking post that you stated was coming? I don't see anything worthy here.

This is simply about the code.

1. You keep saying Floyd needed to be severely dehydrated to be approved for the IV. Can you show me in the ISTUE where it states this?

2. The ISTUE says that the athlete must show that there is no reasonable the****utic alternative to the prohibited method. Well:

Moron simply chooses to ignores WADA's statement on IV re-hydration.

[ADP02]

And adults are rarely 38 year old professional boxers training for the biggest fight of their career. You do realize his risk of dehydration is much more profound than that of an average adult, don't you? Did you not see where it says "A doctor, or emergency medical professionals, can decide whether IV rehydration is needed."

Pretty sure you aren't his doctor or a part of emergency medical professionals in Las Vegas.

No one is accepting it because Floyd says so. Even with proof you won't believe it, since you already stated your belief that he paid off medical practitioners. So what's the point of continuing this debate? You talk about deflecting...well you believe that any proof given has been fabricated and orchestrated by Mayweather. You are the ultimate deflector.

Passed all drug tests = He paid off USADA, micro-dosed, masked with an IV a number of times. All of this with NO PROOF, while on the other side is the proof of the passed tests.

A medical practitioner goes on record saying he was dehydrated to the point of needing an IV = He paid the medical practitioner off...with NO PROOF. While on the other side is a clear reason to believe a medical practitioner agreed with the IV use.

Here is what the medical practitioner had to sign:

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When a doctor comes out and takes a video saying Pacquaio's surgery was for real, you buy it. It's clear that Floyd needed a medical practitioner to go on record about his condition, you see what must have been signed off on by that practitioner for the TUE to be approved, and yet you deflect to your belief that he simply bought the medical practitioner off.

Is this not the height of hypocrisy? Really? Is it not?

Hello?

Why do you think we are here discussing this? Just like Lance Armstrong got his doctor to sign a retroactive prescription, we see the same kinda thing happening here. Of course that is what we are saying because all evidence points to Floyd NOT being significantly dehydrated.


"Adults rarely require IV treatment for dehydration."

I guess you are going to stop posting that article? Even at 38, Floyd is still considered an adult the last time I checked.

Floyd at his age is in better physical condition than most people younger than him.

Ariza was interviewed on Floyd's conditioning. While they did work on everything, he said that an elite athlete like Floyd already came in to camp well conditioned. Camp focus was mainly on sharpening his skills and game plans and so on.

Funny enough, Ariza was stating on how well conditioned Floyd was while at the same time criticizing Manny's side because unlike his fighter, Manny looked drained:
""Ariza said Pacquiao's face looks drawn to him. He said he would not be surprised if Pacquiao is three to four pounds under the 147-pound weight limit.
"Overtrained," Ariza surmised. "It's not a good look."


About weigh in:
"I saw it (how Manny looked) at the weigh in. So no I was not surprised (about Manny's conditioning issues"


after the fight:
"The truth is Manny looked like [expletive]. They brought him in at 152 pounds and he looked like [expletive]. He wasn't physically strong, he wasn't quick, and he wasn't explosive. - "


.

[ADP02]

Yeah I have bigger **** than you because at least I cited the actual video where Conte stated Pac was roided. Whereas all you do is criticize or insinuate Conte expressing how he doesn't like the term of Olympic style drug testing in boxing, which we all know is out of context when the reality what he's saying has nothing to do with the 3 main tests performed for May vs Pac.

So yes, I have a bigger shlong than you. I'm the Grinch that needs to put you in your place.

conte
“I initially became skeptical of Alex Ariza because of Pacquiao's late-age performance spike and his ability to jump weight classes and maintain speed and power,” Conte said in an email this week. “Now that Ariza is in Mayweather’s camp, we repeatedly hear him boasting about an increase in Floyd's punching power.

“There was a four-month period between Mayweather’s fight last September and when he started USADA testing (seven) weeks ago. I have serious concerns about what he may have been doing during that period of time while he was not subjected to drug testing. There are several (performance-enhancing drugs) with long-lasting benefits that can be used and tapered off of shortly before a designated testing period begins.”

[ADP02]

Was this the groundbreaking post that you stated was coming? I don't see anything worthy here.

This is simply about the code.

1. You keep saying Floyd needed to be severely dehydrated to be approved for the IV. Can you show me in the ISTUE where it states this?

2. The ISTUE says that the athlete must show that there is no reasonable the****utic alternative to the prohibited method. Well:

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Seems that a medical practitioner provided clinical justification on his part, along with evidence confirming the diagnosis.

This kind of ****s all over anything you have. We don't need you to discuss his weight anymore, but good try.

3. You are still talking about how he must have been nearly fully rehydrated when he left the MGM after the weigh in. You do realize the 149 he said he weighed on fight night was after the IV, right? I've told you that a number of times, so don't know what you are trying to prove by saying he said he felt great when he weighed in at 149 on fight night. This was after the IV, buddy.

So on one side, we have the ISTUE that doesn't support your contention that he must be severely dehydrated to receive the TUE, we have a doctor who went on record and gave evidence of his condition that made the IV necessary, and we have 19 negative blood and urine tests.

On your side, a whole lot of speculation, misreading the ISTUE, and hypocrisy.

You're going to have to come better than this.

First of all its you that is ignoring not me. Its all there but you are misinterpreting the whole thing.

Floyd's Doctor: He can say that the sky is green.
Floyd fan: See, the sky is green.


Go watch any criminal case and you will see that both sides can come with their own doctors and give their opinion on the matter.


Its about science.
If fighter A says that he is severely dehydrated but his weight is relatively stable BUT his doctor says, "oh, yes he is severely dehydrated" are you just going to believe the fighter's doctor?

[Lester Tutor]

conte
“I initially became skeptical of Alex Ariza because of Pacquiao's late-age performance spike and his ability to jump weight classes and maintain speed and power,” Conte said in an email this week. “Now that Ariza is in Mayweather’s camp, we repeatedly hear him boasting about an increase in Floyd's punching power.

“There was a four-month period between Mayweather’s fight last September and when he started USADA testing (seven) weeks ago. I have serious concerns about what he may have been doing during that period of time while he was not subjected to drug testing. There are several (performance-enhancing drugs) with long-lasting benefits that can be used and tapered off of shortly before a designated testing period begins.”

Yeah because BoxingScene.com and every other boxing site were covering the rumors that Floyd's punching power had increased!

Apparently Conte would be seriously concerned when the whole boxing community of fighters are not subjected to drug testing.

You can play dumb ADP, but apparently every boxer is suspect according to you, including your beloved Pac. And unfortunately you continue to lose because what does Alex Ariza have to do with being in the Philippines specifically for Pac or monitor what he has done throughout his career? You do realize Pacquiao does have a boxing team? Seriously.

I'm your boogieman son.

[Monaco Slim]

none of them have ever been caught