who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

[GTTofAK]

you are falling for transvestitenies trick again of running around in circles to confuse you till you make another mistake

There is nothing wrong with admitting an error in a debate. It shows honesty. In real debates I will frequently make inconsequential errors on purpose and then correct them. In this case the original press release was poorly worded and made it sound like they had no AAS testing policy when they didn't have a testosterone testing policy. So I didn't really make a mistake the UAEF did with a badly worded press release.

[travestyny]

Accute and severe are the same thing you moron.





Mild, moderate, chronic, all fall under "otherwise" you moronic **********.

4.0 Obtaining a TUE
4.1 An Athlete may be granted a TUE if (and only if) he/she can show that each
of the following conditions is met:
a. The Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method in question is needed to treat an acute or chronic medical condition, such that the Athlete would experience a significant impairment to health if the Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method were to be withheld.

What were you saying about chronic? Did you even read the ISTUE????

[GTTofAK]

Rath, you have no idea what color his urine was or whether there was anything wrong with his kidneys

Neither do you. Where is the statement from the DCO? Oh thats right USADA has never produced it. You simply have to take their word for it. I guarntee you that the DCO no longer works for USADA and he got a nice severance check and an NDA. We will never hear a word from the DCO.

how much weight he lost and when,

Well yes we do because the was weighed multiple times leading up to the fight. So stop ****ing lying.

[The Big Dunn]

It is the definition as far as WADA is concerned. No 7% loss of bodymass no severe dehydration no TUE.

That is not what WADA stated in the quote you posted that is your interpretation of it, done solely to fit the argument you are making. That has no validity.

[travestyny]

There is nothing wrong with admitting an error in a debate. It shows honesty. In real debates I will frequently make inconsequential errors on purpose and then correct them. In this case the original press release was poorly worded and made it sound like they had no AAS testing policy when they didn't have a testosterone testing policy. So I didn't really make a mistake the UAEF did with a badly worded press release.

ahahahahahhaahah. Dude, face it. YOU ARE AN IDIOT. You just have poor reading comprehension skills.

By the way, what is it that you find so upsetting about the Dr.'s statements on Lance and those tests? Do share. I want to see how your reading comprehension, or lack thereof, led you astray once again.

[The Big Dunn]

Neither do you. Where is the statement from the DCO? Oh thats right USADA has never produced it. You simply have to take their word for it. I guarntee you that the DCO no longer works for USADA and he got a nice severance check and an NDA. We will never hear a word from the DCO.



Well yes we do because the was weighed multiple times leading up to the fight. So stop ****ing lying.

again, parsing things, and giving an opinion, passing it off as fact, and pretending these are direct quotes. Dude,until you show enough integrity to respond to a post in full you will continue to have no validity.

You only know the weight at that moment, you have no idea whether it fluctuated up or down. Same way we do not know floyd's weight going into the ring because we do not weigh him at that moment.

As I said, I am not implying Floyd had any of these symptoms as I do not know.

[GTTofAK]

4.0 Obtaining a TUE
4.1 An Athlete may be granted a TUE if (and only if) he/she can show that each
of the following conditions is met:
a. The Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method in question is needed to treat an acute or chronic medical condition, such that the Athlete would experience a significant impairment to health if the Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method were to be withheld.

What were you saying about chronic? Did you even read the ISTUE????

Froid didn't get a TUE for treatment of a chronic condition he got a retroactive TUE.

An application for a TUE will only be considered for retroactive approval where:

a. Emergency treatment or treatment of an acute medical condition was necessary; or

b. Due to other exceptional circumstances, there was insufficient time or opportunity for the Athlete to submit, or for the TUEC to consider, an application for the TUE prior to Sample collection; or

c. It is agreed, by WADA and by the Anti-Doping Organization to whom the application for a retroactive TUE is or would be made, that fairness requires the grant of a retroactive TUE.P.

Notice that WADA does not allow retroactive TUE's for treatment chronic conditions. Then we have of course WADA specifically addressing IV in my above quote that forbids TUE's for any dehydration other than severe. So chronic dehydration would not qualify for a standard TUE because WADA has explicitly addressed it so consider it an exception.

Come on reading comprehension.

[The Big Dunn]

There is nothing wrong with admitting an error in a debate. It shows honesty. In real debates I will frequently make inconsequential errors on purpose and then correct them. In this case the original press release was poorly worded and made it sound like they had no AAS testing policy when they didn't have a testosterone testing policy. So I didn't really make a mistake the UAEF did with a badly worded press release.

so its always the other guy and you make "inconsequential" mistakes on purpose and correct them. thats called lying dude and in a "real" debate when you get caught doing that, no one in the audience or listening to the debate will believe anything you say afterwards.

[GTTofAK]

By the way, what is it that you find so upsetting about the Dr.'s statements on Lance and those tests?

Its a false statement. You can detect EPO form properly stored old samples that is proven. She lied to cover for the labs failure to catch a cheat.

[ADP02]

Lance Armstrong? lol. should we talk Barry Bonds, Holyfield? who else?

don't involve me with your ''deflecting'' or your other personal convos with others. The only convo I have with you as you leap over and over page after page as I ask you directly, because you YOURSELF brought up Conte in the MASTER IV thread..

What do you think about Conte saying that Pac roided? And stop casually quoting or responding to anything other than Conte!!

You know Conte! The guy Hauser referenced as SIGNIFICANT importance for the ''Can Boxing Trust USADA?''

you, Spoon, Rath... you guys have computers over at NSB internship innit, just trolling to maintain your agenda? Tell Jake Donovan to tell Hauser for me ''that's what's up!''

Sorry bud but I asked you plenty of questions first. You never answered any of them except with deflections. So do not even go there. I'm still waiting for you to respond.


Lance Armstrong's name is used as an example that shoots down FLoyd fans ignorant comments such as "Floyd was not caught with PEDs so he is innocent" or "IVs are OK. Its just saline and a few vitamins"


Conte found both Floyd and Manny su****ious. Right?

So are you in agreement with Conte? Just asking! Do not deflect!