who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

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  • GTTofAK
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    #1201
    Originally posted by travestyny
    You make it seem like she is attacking the testers that did those tests. She is explaining what she thinks happened based on her expertise. She never attacks and never says their findings are wrong. If anything, she says otherwise she has been proven a liar for her beliefs.
    She is covering for WADA labs failing to catch Armstrong by making false statements bout EPO testing. She did the same damn thing in the article you posted about UFC and epitestosterone. If its so easy to catch you would think that they would have caught more than one person.

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    • GTTofAK
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      #1202
      Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
      You ain't the only one that knows the sport son.
      Knowing the testing rules and knowing the sport are two different things. I dont think anyone really took notice about the rules actually said about IVs until Mayweather. Once you look at the rules is clear as day that IVs are banned.

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      • Rath
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        #1203
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        because Lance cheating got exposed years later you are saying same will happen to floyd. That is not valid anywhere except in the minds of the pac fans/floyd haters like yourself.
        spin it dunn

        SHAME ON YOU

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        • Lester Tutor
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          #1204
          Originally posted by GTTofAK
          You want to know how I know Manny wasn't using AAS when he was with Ariza? Because Ariza had to bring in Memo when he started working for Froid. Ariza doesn't know **** about AAS that is why he needed Memo. All that was in those shakes he gave Manny was basically pre-workout, over the counter stimulants that were not banned. Rios got popped because Ariza fell behind the curve and gave him something that was recently banned.
          Don't give up, son. Rios? So what you're on about. lol.

          get back to focus my son. Who's even mentioning Ariza or Memo in the phillipines? You think Filipinos don't know how to roid up overseas?

          Conte: ''I'm highly su****ious and I said this publicly..there's no doubt in my mind when you're not subjected to testing...but I think it's been going on for a very long time including back in the phillipines...that's my opinion. I say yes. I believe that he has been doing stuff.''

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          • ADP02
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            #1205
            Originally posted by travestyny
            Sorry, you did not prove that he didn't fit into USADA's definition of acute or chronic dehydration. You can't prove that without their records. That much is clear.

            Furthermore, let's get this straight. Are you accusing him of violating WADA's rules, or are you accusing him of PED use? I asked you that before and you made it clear that you are accusing him of PED use.

            They are clearly not the same, and there is clearly no direct link between violating WADA's rules and abusing PED's. You have to admit that much.
            Floyd cannot be severely dehydrated unless he lost a significant amount of weight. Its simple science. This cannot be disputed. The only time that is not taken into account is when you do not have the weight of the patient before the patient was dehydrated. If you do, that is the most accurate way to determine if Floyd was severely dehydrated or not.

            When your weight fluctuation is less than 4-5% then you often have little to no clinical signs. You may be thirsty......

            That is why Floyd's vital signs were normal.

            They didn't have to find PEDs.
            Using an IV, it masks PED use. Right? WADA and USADA makes this clear.

            So if Floyd was not severely dehydrated and there are alternatives then Floyd used the IV for something else. IVs are considered a banned method. I'm accusing Floyd of that.


            Floyd delayed and then used an IV. Delaying 5+ hours most definitely can change the urine results. Then combine that with oral and IV intake of fluids, its a slam dunk!!!

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            • GTTofAK
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              #1206
              Originally posted by Dosumpthin
              exertional heat illness, nausea, emesis, or diarrhea, and in those who cannot ingest oral fluids for other reasons
              Other than the proven fact that he was only 4.5 pounds down from his weight a month before, that is own statement was that his only symptom was that his urin was a little dark, and he was drinking water after the weigh in.

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              • Rath
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                #1207
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                Rath, you have no idea what color his urine was or whether there was anything wrong with his kidneys, how much weight he lost and when, or the presence of any other sign. I am not suggesting he had any of these symptoms. I am simply pointing out all the signs of severe dehydration I found.

                Look, GTTofAK is posting a definition of sever dehydration that is inaccurate. why are you not killing him for this?
                you are very good at assumptions right?

                i am quite sure we are not talking about sharapova in this thread for pete sake

                are you arguing for the sake of arguing dunn?

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                • travestyny
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                  #1208
                  Originally posted by GTTofAK
                  She is covering for WADA labs failing to catch Armstrong by making false statements bout EPO testing. She did the same damn thing in the article you posted about UFC and epitestosterone. If its so easy to catch you would think that they would have caught more than one person.
                  Dude, didn't I already show you that USADA went after Armstrong and claimed to have proof that he cheated based on tests?

                  You claimed her statement was including the cream and the clear. It's obvious that she didn't mean that. She is very familiar with these drugs. You do realize that in 2003 there was testing for THG, right? She was responsible for heading up testing for it at her laboratory in Montreal. If you want to read the article, have at it, but don't hurt yourself.

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                  • GTTofAK
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                    #1209
                    Originally posted by SugarKaineHook
                    Don't give up, son. Rios? So what you're on about
                    Hey its not my fault you are ******. We know from what Rios got popped with what Ariza's game is, legal stimulants not AAS.

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                    • travestyny
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                      #1210
                      Originally posted by ADP02
                      Floyd cannot be severely dehydrated unless he lost a significant amount of weight. Its simple science. This cannot be disputed. The only time that is not taken into account is when you do not have the weight of the patient before the patient was dehydrated. If you do, that is the most accurate way to determine if Floyd was severely dehydrated or not.

                      When your weight fluctuation is less than 4-5% then you often have little to no clinical signs. You may be thirsty......

                      That is why Floyd's vital signs were normal.

                      They didn't have to find PEDs.
                      Using an IV, it masks PED use. Right? WADA and USADA makes this clear.

                      So if Floyd was not severely dehydrated and there are alternatives then Floyd used the IV for something else. IVs are considered a banned method. I'm accusing Floyd of that.


                      Floyd delayed and then used an IV. Delaying 5+ hours most definitely can change the urine results. Then combine that with oral and IV intake of fluids, its a slam dunk!!!
                      1. You are wrong. You have no proof.

                      2. Prove it wasn't chronic dehydration.

                      3. Again, how did he pass the drug and urine test the next day when the masking agent wore off?

                      4. You already lost.

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