who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

[Real King Kong]

This thread is pathetic.

[The Big Dunn]

And you are ****ing wrong. It is the official measurement of dehydration, % loss of body mass. Everything else is a sign.



Its used all over the country now in high-school wresting. Preseason wrestlers are given a floor they can drop weight too based on their physical capping the amount they can dehydrate themselves to make weight. If a wrestler weighs in under that weight they are not allowed to wrestle.

Serious dumb **** you dont ****ing know anything. You need to accept that you are ******.



Mother ****er your dumbass doesn't even know what standard of proof means. You are right now in flying spaghetti monster standard of proof territory. There is no reasonable explanation for Froid being dehydrated or evidence. There is as much supporting evidence for Froid being dehydrated as there is for a flying spaghetti monster creating the universe.

No it is not. Maybe you are not an athlete. Have you ever been treated for dehydration during a game? Have they ever weighed you before treatment? No, so stop it.

They will use % of body mass in conjunction with other symptoms. If you display certain symptoms, they will then check you for dehydration and use weight loss to confirm. No one is going to weigh you and say you are dehydrated absent other symptoms.

You are no different than ADOP2.you are acting like stable weight ELIMINATES THE POSSIBILITY of severe dehydration when nothing I have seen indicates that is a fact. Manny losing is driving you to make this conclusion, not the information available.

[The Big Dunn]

And you are ****ing wrong. It is the official measurement of dehydration, % loss of body mass. Everything else is a sign.



Its used all over the country now in high-school wresting. Preseason wrestlers are given a floor they can drop weight too based on their physical capping the amount they can dehydrate themselves to make weight. If a wrestler weighs in under that weight they are not allowed to wrestle.

Serious dumb **** you dont ****ing know anything. You need to accept that you are ******.



Mother ****er your dumbass doesn't even know what standard of proof means. You are right now in flying spaghetti monster standard of proof territory. There is no reasonable explanation for Froid being dehydrated or evidence. There is as much supporting evidence for Froid being dehydrated as there is for a flying spaghetti monster creating the universe.

http://www.topendsports.com/nutritio...on-methods.htm

Body Weight Changes

An effective and simple way to determine the level of dehydration is to monitor body weight changes. Taking a body weight measure each morning (after emptying the bladder) can show a pattern of hydration over time. If you wish to determine how much fluid is lost during exercise, body weight can be measured before and after exercise. With this testing method, other factors such as fluid intake and fluid and weight losses through going to the toilet must also be taken into account. To determine amount of sweat loss during exercise, start with the measure of body mass after exercise minus the weight before. Any volume of drinks taken during exercise will need to be added to this value, and toilet losses subtracted. Therefore:


sweat loss = (weight before - weight after) + fluid intake - toilet losses

When measuring body mass, it is usually to measure semi-nude, and to towel off any sweat on the skin after exercise. For more about measuring sweat loss, see the sweat loss testing method. You can also analyze the sweat once you have collected it using sweat patches, and look at the site specific sweat rate.


How is human dehydration measured?

4 Answers Kenneth Lam Kenneth Lam, MD

Richard Pladdet, MD, specialist elderly care; Radbout University Nijmegen 2013; physician Leiden University 2004

https://www.quora.com/How-is-human-dehydration-measured

A good question. It's surprisingly difficult.

If you are speaking about strictly how much water is in an individual's body, the most accurate method is to check their day to day weight. Most rapid changes in weight are due to fluid losses. If they've dropped weight quickly and there's a story to back it up (e.g. grandma tripped and fell and she may have been on the floor for days), it's likely dehydration.

Other quick methods to take a guess at someone's level of hydration include checking vitals (a rapid heart rate suggests dehydration), skin turgor (dehydrated people's skin stays up longer when you pinch it into a little tent), and checking their urine output (if it's under 0.5mL/kg/day, they may be dehydrated). Of these, urine output is probably the most reliable method. Thirst is also a good symptom to go by if the person is conscious.

Other fancy methods that have emerged include using ultrasound to assess the fullness of the inferior vena cava, the main vein feeding back to the heart from the lower body, and using how conductive the human body is to estimate its water content.

However, all of these methods are rough guesses. The gold standard method injects you with radioactive fluid and watches to see how dilute it gets over time. This, unfortunately, is not rapid enough or cheap enough to be practical though.
So - it seems easy but ends up being more complex than it seems. Fluid isn't uniformly distributed throughout the body, and furthermore, the pumps that move fluid around and the containers for the fluid also function dynamically.

If, by chance, you were asking with some Quantified Self device in mind, I don't know if there's an elegant solution.

[Dosumpthin]

Yes you can determine if Floyd was severely dehydrated and since its defined by how much fluids you lose then YES, you can determine this by checking the scales. If they are relatively stable (his weight) then there is no way one can call that severely dehydrated.


About my comments: Manny beat Bradley but Bradley won officially. I can still discuss that even though they will never change the outcome. Same goes with this fight. Is your concern that they will change this to a NC? I do not care about that. I just want to get your views on this question.

Either you are ignorant on this matter or just pretending to be. Let me know which one it is ....

This is why you are now ******. This is not how you define severe dehydration.
You and that other idiot are both ****** beyond reasonable doubt. Measure dehydration by using a scale. Holly ****.

Ultimately ......


This is why your shltty (adjective) theory is no better than my shltty (noun) theory.

[GTTofAK]

An effective and simple way to determine the level of dehydration is to monitor body weight changes.

You should have stopped right ****ing there moron. Froids weight was stable weeks leading up to the fight. You cant explain how Froid can be dehydrated without losing weight.

[Dosumpthin]

http://www.topendsports.com/nutritio...on-methods.htm

Body Weight Changes

An effective and simple way to determine the level of dehydration is to monitor body weight changes. Taking a body weight measure each morning (after emptying the bladder) can show a pattern of hydration over time. If you wish to determine how much fluid is lost during exercise, body weight can be measured before and after exercise. With this testing method, other factors such as fluid intake and fluid and weight losses through going to the toilet must also be taken into account. To determine amount of sweat loss during exercise, start with the measure of body mass after exercise minus the weight before. Any volume of drinks taken during exercise will need to be added to this value, and toilet losses subtracted. Therefore:


sweat loss = (weight before - weight after) + fluid intake - toilet losses

When measuring body mass, it is usually to measure semi-nude, and to towel off any sweat on the skin after exercise. For more about measuring sweat loss, see the sweat loss testing method. You can also analyze the sweat once you have collected it using sweat patches, and look at the site specific sweat rate.


How is human dehydration measured?

4 Answers Kenneth Lam Kenneth Lam, MD

Richard Pladdet, MD, specialist elderly care; Radbout University Nijmegen 2013; physician Leiden University 2004

https://www.quora.com/How-is-human-dehydration-measured

A good question. It's surprisingly difficult.

If you are speaking about strictly how much water is in an individual's body, the most accurate method is to check their day to day weight. Most rapid changes in weight are due to fluid losses. If they've dropped weight quickly and there's a story to back it up (e.g. grandma tripped and fell and she may have been on the floor for days), it's likely dehydration.

Other quick methods to take a guess at someone's level of hydration include checking vitals (a rapid heart rate suggests dehydration), skin turgor (dehydrated people's skin stays up longer when you pinch it into a little tent), and checking their urine output (if it's under 0.5mL/kg/day, they may be dehydrated). Of these, urine output is probably the most reliable method. Thirst is also a good symptom to go by if the person is conscious.

Other fancy methods that have emerged include using ultrasound to assess the fullness of the inferior vena cava, the main vein feeding back to the heart from the lower body, and using how conductive the human body is to estimate its water content.

However, all of these methods are rough guesses. The gold standard method injects you with radioactive fluid and watches to see how dilute it gets over time. This, unfortunately, is not rapid enough or cheap enough to be practical though.
So - it seems easy but ends up being more complex than it seems. Fluid isn't uniformly distributed throughout the body, and furthermore, the pumps that move fluid around and the containers for the fluid also function dynamically.

If, by chance, you were asking with some Quantified Self device in mind, I don't know if there's an elegant solution.

You were spot on about trying to argue someones opinion.

No matter what facts you give them, they are going to believe what they want to.

[GTTofAK]

This is not how you define severe dehydration.

Uh yes it is you moron.

Even though the majority of cases of dehydration can be treated via oral consumption, IV treatment of severe dehydration (>7% body weight loss), exertional heat illness, nausea, emesis, or diarrhea, and in those who cannot ingest oral fluids for other reasons, is clinically indicated.2,3,7,23,68 Otherwise, as the American College of Sports Medicine consensus guidelines state, "IV fluids do not provide an advantage over drinking oral fluids and electrolytes."

[GTTofAK]

You were spot on about trying to argue someones opinion.

No matter what facts you give them, they are going to believe what they want to.

Like I care that you and your alts agree.

[Dosumpthin]

You should have stopped right ****ing there moron. Froids weight was stable weeks leading up to the fight. You cant explain how Froid can be dehydrated without losing weight.

You were given the facts. Just like I have given you the facts you facts in regards to nsac allowing ivs

But in your ******ity, you won't admit when your wrong.

[The Big Dunn]

You should have stopped right ****ing there moron. Froids weight was stable weeks leading up to the fight. You cant explain how Froid can be dehydrated without losing weight.

LMFAO!! you can't just parse that one sentence out dude.

An effective and simple way to determine the level of dehydration is to monitor body weight changes. Taking a body weight measure each morning (after emptying the bladder) can show a pattern of hydration over time.

This is effective to determine hydration OVER TIME, not as a one time measure like the one we are discussing with Floyd. This is the point you seem to keep overlooking.

Look dude, its bad enough you are using your alt but that's not the biggest issue. The point is you are parsing things and trying to make them stand alone as facts. that is completely invalid.

I get you hate Floyd and are mad that he beat Manny. that said stable weight is in NO WAY proof that Floyd or anyone else is not suffering from severe, mild or slight dehydration.