who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

[ADP02]

"but he gave a partial urine sample from before the IV ".

I guess that I need to explain this to you too AGAIN!!!

Since its a partial urine sample it means that it is NOT sufficient. It may have been just a drop or more but NOT enough. So that would mean that they would combine the before IV sample and after and pour into Sample A and Sample B.

This I'm sure was part of the plan.

[Rath]

you're obviously not a proud man...understandably so.

a proud man losing to a non-proud man sweet is it not

in that photo floyd deleted the two black guy and maintained the white one LOL

[Real King Kong]

a proud man losing to a non-proud man sweet is it not

in that photo floyd deleted the two black guy and maintained the white one LOL

Lol...i can do that too.
...see?

[Rath]

Lol...i can do that too.
...see?

you lost, i ruined your life, move on mate let it go.

you're a loser.

stop crying.

[Lester Tutor]

Are you not one of those Floyd fans that was sure that Manny was on PEDs even though you had no proof?

Are you not a Floyd fan that even went as far as doing videos on Manny and PEDs?

Yet after 6+ years of that you come here and talk the way you do. What a big joke!

Whattup clown!

I remember you talking about Conte in the master IV thread... cute, in a response, you don't even mention the sausage king cop. All of you are cowards. Your boy Pac just flat out owned by Conte. You want the video posted again?

[Real King Kong]

you lost, i ruined your life, move on mate let it go.

you're a loser.

stop crying.

you may be slightly ******ed.

[Lester Tutor]

Yet after 6+ years of that you come here and talk the way you do. What a big joke!

Maestroboxing had already done the homework back in 2010 on youtube. I'm just gonna take it on a another level. I got something even better than PED theories or slow motion. We're gonna do all of Manny's careeer bouts vs Floyd. When youtube goers see the clear difference in skill from these two combined people will know which one was the B level.

Its the best objective and empirical angle vs these dogmatic threads of only pointing at smoke in one direction. Look at the polls. Floyd has looked the same since 16, proportionally. Pac doe... roids works a charm

[Zaroku]

Maestroboxing had already done the homework back in 2010 on youtube. I'm just gonna take it on a another level. I got something even better than PED theories or slow motion. We're gonna do all of Manny's careeer bouts vs Floyd. When youtube goers see the clear difference in skill from these two combined people will know which one was the B level.

Its the best objective and empirical angle vs these dogmatic threads of only pointing at smoke in one direction. Look at the polls. Floyd has looked the same since 16, proportionally. Pac doe... roids works a charm

He got left with A PAC Pumpkin head...

[travestyny]

Sure you did .... Yet you didn't include it in your posts.

Are you slow or what? I gave you the direct link to the article. Why would I try to hide something from you? What was the main point of the article? The main point is that HAUSER HAS TO MAKE A GREAT LEAP TO GO FROM NOT SEVERELY HYDRATED TO ABUSING PED'S. Just like you.


No. Like I said, the funny part is that you didn't include it when you posted. The article stated that was the most su****ious part about the IV scandal Yet you didn't post it? How come?.

The article also said "the evidence provided is of such questionable validity." Did you fail to see that, or are you again just trying to take what fits your agenda?





My point was that Floyd didn't require an IV. Why he delayed and got an IV when he didn't require an IV? This is all you really need to know bud! Get it? Understand? If not, continue reading the post.

So you proved that he didn't need an IV? Is that your stance? Don't think so. The article makes it clear that it's questionable how dehydrated he was, sure. But did he need to rehydrate? Did he receive any great benefit from saline and vitamin C that made the contest unfair? The answer is simply no.




Reading comprehension? Remember that you also posted this:



reading comprehension?

I think its you that is missing that.

I explained to you that there are holes in that article and explained that to you. I said that there are too many variables to come up with an exact formula (eg X Liters = Y%). That is too simplistic.

So what you mean is that you don't know **** about it because everyone is not the same. Great work. You should admit you don't know **** more often.

[COLOR="red"]Hauser doesn't say that he is an expert in the field

Then get your head out of his ass.



The stretch is that the article is trying to ridicule Hauser and saying it actually is 4 times more than 750ml to get that reduction. The fact is that due to so many variables, if you do an experiment, there will be candidates that can get similar values with a lot less than 3L. . Again, I explained it to you but you didn't get it .... but you are the one criticizing everyone else about comprehension problems. Funny stuff!

Um no. You make Zero sense. All you are trying to say is that the information they have which would be generally true may not be true for everyone. Great work, Sherlock. But when it comes to Mayweather cheating, you are so sure about it. You really need to take some logic classes.


The point is that you Floyd fans were all high fiving each other like as if it squashed the possibility of Floyd masking with an IV of 750ml or any wrong doings. Even now you keep on asking "How?" I already told you how and will explain it further below.

You didn't explain ****. THE ARTICLE SHOWS THAT THE T/E RATION **** IS QUESTIONABLE. IT CLEARLY SHOWS THAT. IT ALSO SHOWS THAT THE MASKING **** IS QUESTIONABLE. CLEARLY. IT SHOWS HOW MUCH HAUSER WAS WRONG. YOUR COME BACK IS "MAYBE FLOYD IS DIFFERENT." JUST BE A ****ING MAN AND ADMIT YOU HAVE NOTHING ALREADY.


Wrong AGAIN!!! Get ready for the planets to align.

May 2nd post fight test is a scheduled and expected test. So they may have had that covered. What do I mean?

a) They micro-dosed and made sure that the PEDs would no longer be in Floyd's system after the fight.

or if that is not the case

b) Since Floyd already had a supervised IV, they could have EASILY had another unsupervised IV prior to the fight. If the tests showed that Floyd had an IV, well he did on May 1st.


LOTS OF COULD HAVE'S, MAYBE'S, OR'S. AGAIN, BE A MAN AND ADMIT THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ****.




reading comprehension? I explained this now 20 times?

YOU DIDN'T EXPLAIN ANYTHING BECAUSE YOUR LOGIC MAKES NO SENSE. PERIOD. NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES YOU KEEP SAYING YOU MAKE SENSE TO YOURSELF, NO ONE BELIEVES YOU.

Floyd still needs to follow the steps but USADA would help along the way where it can. How?
Floyd should not have received an IV because he was not dehydrated to that point. Everyone knows that. How the heck did Floyd get a retroactive TUE? USADA helped Floyd get one. That is what you call "benefitted "

How did Floyd delay giving urine for 6 hours? USADA accepted Floyd's BS. That is what you call "benefitted "
That much we do know but they are NOT going to tell us everything.

SO ACCORDING TO YOU, HE BENEFITTED FROM BEING ALLOWED TO HAVE SALINE AND VITAMIN C. CAN YOU GET TO THE PED PART???? STILL NOTHING BUT COULD HAVE MAYBE FROM YOU.



The article and you downplayed it by making it sound like its normal. That is an incorrect statement. The T/E ratio of Floyd was low. It is considered a red flag.

THE ARTICLE CLEARLY KILLS THE T/E ****. IF YOU CAN'T REALIZE THAT, READ IT AGAIN.

One of the main reasons someone would use an IV is to mask PEDs.

UM, NO. THE MAIN REASON SOMEONE USES AN IV IS TO REHYDRATE. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. AND IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ATHLETES, NOT EVERY ATHLETE THAT USES AN IV IS ABUSING PEDS.

Well, as you saw, except for some Floyd fans, everyone is stating that Floyd did not require an IV.

Nowadays, you do not have to test positive for PEDs to be violating their rules. Nor do you have to be caught red-handed with an IV. Actually Floyd was doing that in the open! We get it. Its a Nevada A-side benefit.

NEVADA HAS LITTLE TO DO WITH THIS.

Biological passport is an example of this. The numbers for a given athlete can all be in the normal range but the numbers themselves can be flagged because they are inconsistent.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IF THE NUMBERS CAUSE A FLAG? TELL ME.

Due to what the majority have agreed on:
There are numerous violations that could be imposed:
- Floyd should not have received the IV when he requested it. He should not have received a retroactive TUE. Therefore, Floyd used a banned method.

WHEN YOU GET USADA'S DOCUMENTS, YOU CAN CHANGE MINDS ABOUT THAT. UNTIL THEN...

- Floyd delayed giving urine samples.
It would be an anti-doping rule violation of "deliberately Evading, Refusing or Failing to Submit to Sample Collection"

I'm sure we can come up with other infractions.

I'm tired of reading the same old thing where you clearly have nothing. Just admit it already! Now you go on and on about how USADA helped Floyd cheat by allowing the IV, but about the urine giving before it (that would definitely make masking more difficult, you cannot deny that) USADA didn't help then because they couldn't wait until after the IV that you accuse them of helping him to get. DOES THIS MAKE ANY SENSE TO YOU????

Stop saying the same old things that make no sense and pretending they do. They don't. Plain and simple.

[Zaroku]

My Chihuahua Jhonny thinks this whole controversy is pretty much over...

P4P. Jhonny would whip Floyd, Manny & Marquez

Scale him up from 5.5 ~ 6 lbs to 147 ~ 154 lbs...

He would be a beast!!!