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  • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
    Oh deflections .....

    I told you that the reason can be different for any substance and or method.

    Zaroku gave you a hint ......

    You are looking at it the wrong way. Think about it as a function in a programming language. Within that function you have your OR and OR and OR but what happens if that function is never called? Then that means that you never get to the OR and OR and OR. Starting to get the picture now?


    .
    The first language I learned was PASCAL.
    so here you go. So I will explain it in Boolean.



    AND Operator
    The operator AND is a parallel to the conjunction "and". If we put together several conditions using AND, then the resultant condition is valid ONLY if EACH condition is valid. In everyday life we use this operator in the following consideration: "When it's raining AND I am out THEN I open my umbrella." or "When it is raining on me AND I have my umbrella THEN I open it." (IF (it`s raining on me) AND (I have got my umbrella) THEN (I open it)).
    AN EXAMPLE USING THE AND OPERATOR
    Program Operator_AND;
    var a,b:integer;
    begin
    readln(a);
    readln(b);
    IF **a<0) AND (b<0)) THEN
    writeln('Numbers a and b are both negative')
    ELSE
    writeln('Numbers a and b are not both negative');
    end.
    Note that the whole condition **a <0) AND (b <0)) is closed in the brackets - usually it is not necessary, but in some programming languages it is required to close any complex condition in the brackets, that is why it is good way to get used to this syntax.


    OR Operator
    The operator OR is parallel to the conjunction "or". If we put together several conditions using OR, then the resultant condition is valid when AT LEAST ONE of the conditions is valid (and it is not valid only if none of the conditions is valid). In everyday life we use this operator in the following considerations, for example: "When I am hungry or I like tasty meals, I take something delicious." or "When I want to be a good student or I am bored, I learn something." (IF (I want to be a good student) OR (I`m bored) THEN (I learn)).



    So when the retroactive tue function was called only one ,A OR B OR C has to be true.


    Read this 10 more times if you don't get it.



    There is no way around it. This is not something that is debateable. You must under stand conjunctions in order apply Wada code. Period.

    When you accept this simple concept you will realize what people have been telling you all along. Your conspiracy is based on misinformation.



    If can not accept this you will remain a member of THE SCHOLASTIC FOUR.

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    • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
      The first language I learned was PASCAL.
      so here you go. So I will explain it in Boolean.



      AND Operator
      The operator AND is a parallel to the conjunction "and". If we put together several conditions using AND, then the resultant condition is valid ONLY if EACH condition is valid. In everyday life we use this operator in the following consideration: "When it's raining AND I am out THEN I open my umbrella." or "When it is raining on me AND I have my umbrella THEN I open it." (IF (it`s raining on me) AND (I have got my umbrella) THEN (I open it)).
      AN EXAMPLE USING THE AND OPERATOR
      Program Operator_AND;
      var a,b:integer;
      begin
      readln(a);
      readln(b);
      IF **a<0) AND (b<0)) THEN
      writeln('Numbers a and b are both negative')
      ELSE
      writeln('Numbers a and b are not both negative');
      end.
      Note that the whole condition **a <0) AND (b <0)) is closed in the brackets - usually it is not necessary, but in some programming languages it is required to close any complex condition in the brackets, that is why it is good way to get used to this syntax.


      OR Operator
      The operator OR is parallel to the conjunction "or". If we put together several conditions using OR, then the resultant condition is valid when AT LEAST ONE of the conditions is valid (and it is not valid only if none of the conditions is valid). In everyday life we use this operator in the following considerations, for example: "When I am hungry or I like tasty meals, I take something delicious." or "When I want to be a good student or I am bored, I learn something." (IF (I want to be a good student) OR (I`m bored) THEN (I learn)).



      So when the retroactive tue function was called only one ,A OR B OR C has to be true.


      Read this 10 more times if you don't get it.



      There is no way around it. This is not something that is debateable. You must under stand conjunctions in order apply Wada code. Period.

      When you accept this simple concept you will realize what people have been telling you all along. Your conspiracy is based on misinformation.



      If can not accept this you will remain a member of THE SCHOLASTIC FOUR.

      That is not a function. So I guess you never learnt functions?



      This explains exactly what we are talking about:


      WADA - Retroactive TUE

      "1.Emergency treatment or treatment of an acute medical
      condition.

      2. If, due to exceptional circumstances, there was insufficient time
      or opportunity for an applicant to submit, or a TUEC to consider, an
      application prior to doping control.

      By way of explanation in relation to the aforementioned points:

       An emergency situation occurs when the life of an Athlete could be
      at risk if he/she is unable to Use the Prohibited Substance or
      Method; in other words, if the medical condition justifies the
      treatment and warrants immediate administration.

      Circumstances are considered to be exceptional when, for example, a TUE cannot be granted in time through no fault of the Athlete.
      Thus, an Athlete with a chronic illness must request a TUE 30 days prior to an event. Nevertheless, the case of a normally healthy Athlete suddenly affected by a significant medical condition some days prior to an event, and unable to request a TUE within the allotted time to enable the TUEC to grant the TUE, may be considered as an “exceptional circumstance”."


      Can we now get back to the main issues here? No more deflecting?



      BTW - Man, I cannot remember what was my first language. Fortran? Basic? Pascal? Assembler? It was one of those ......



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      Last edited by ADP02; 03-25-2016, 02:26 AM.

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      • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        That is not a function. So I guess you never learnt functions?



        This explains exactly what we are talking about:


        WADA - Retroactive TUE

        "1.Emergency treatment or treatment of an acute medical
        condition.

        2. If, due to exceptional circumstances, there was insufficient time
        or opportunity for an applicant to submit, or a TUEC to consider, an
        application prior to doping control.

        By way of explanation in relation to the aforementioned points:

         An emergency situation occurs when the life of an Athlete could be
        at risk if he/she is unable to Use the Prohibited Substance or
        Method; in other words, if the medical condition justifies the
        treatment and warrants immediate administration.

        Circumstances are considered to be exceptional when, for example, a TUE cannot be granted in time through no fault of the Athlete.
        Thus, an Athlete with a chronic illness must request a TUE 30 days prior to an event. Nevertheless, the case of a normally healthy Athlete suddenly affected by a significant medical condition some days prior to an event, and unable to request a TUE within the allotted time to enable the TUEC to grant the TUE, may be considered as an “exceptional circumstance”."


        Can we now get back to the main issues here? No more deflecting?


        .
        9. WHAT IS A RETROACTIVE TUE? UP

        There are situations for which TUEs may be granted retroactively. The evaluation process is identical to the standard TUE application procedure i.e. the TUEC evaluates the application and issues its decision. The ISTUE stipulates which situations may result in the granting of a retroactive TUE, as follows:

        Emergency treatment or treatment of an acute medical condition was necessary*;

        or

        Due to other exceptional circumstances, there was insufficient time or opportunity for the athlete to submit, or the TUEC to consider, an application for the TUE prior to Sample collection;

        or

        Applicable rules required the athlete or permitted the athlete to apply for a retroactive TUE. This is applicable to Persons who are not International-Level or National-Level athletes (Code Article 4.4.5) and (where the relevant NADO so chooses) to National-Level Athletes in sports specified by the relevant NADO (ISTUE Article 5.1 Comment);

        [Comment: Such athletes are strongly advised to have a medical file prepared and ready to demonstrate their satisfaction of the TUE conditions set out in ISTUE Article 4.1, should an application for a retroactive TUE be necessary following Sample collection.]

        or

        It is agreed, by WADA and by the ADO to whom the application for a retroactive TUE is or would be made, that fairness requires the grant of a retroactive TUE.



        *A medical emergency or acute medical situation occurs when the athlete's medical condition justifies immediate Administration of a Prohibited Substance or Method and failure to treat immediately could significantly put the athlete’s health at risk. It is always preferable to address a TUE application prospectively rather than retrospectively. ADOs granting TUEs should have internal procedures to expedite the evaluation and granting of TUE for emergency situations, whenever possible, and without putting the athlete’s health at risk
        .


        ADP02 leader of THE SCHOLASTIC FOUR

        We can not continue any discussions until you demonstrate your understanding of conjunctions within the English language. You will need to distinguish the difference of the word AND along with the word OR by example using complete sentences. This is a non negotiable requirement.

        Legal definition of the word OR.

        or
        conj. either; in the alternative. It is often vital to distinguish between "or" and "and."
        Last edited by Dosumpthin; 03-25-2016, 03:12 AM.

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        • Or might as well hug the fuvk up and do wrestling rather than boxing. Don't you think?

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          • Last edited by Lester Tutor; 03-25-2016, 08:14 AM.

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            • Victor conte

              Probably the most su****ious part for me:

              A normal testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio is slightly more than 1-to-1. Conte says that one recent study of the general population “placed the average T-E ratio for whites at 1.2-to-1 and for blacks at 1.3-to-1.”

              Under WADA standards, a testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio of up to 4-to-1 is acceptable. That allows for any reasonable variation in an athlete’s natural testosterone level (which, for an elite athlete, might be particularly high). If the ratio is above 4-to-1, an athlete is presumed to be doping.

              Some athletes who use exogenous testosterone game the system by administering exogenous epitestosterone to drive their testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio down beneath the permitted ceiling. This can be done by injection or by the application of epitestosterone as a cream. In the absence of a CIR test, this masks the use of synthetic testosterone.

              But there’s a catch. If an athlete tries to manipulate his or her testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio, it is difficult to balance the outcome. If an athlete uses too much epitestosterone - and the precise amount is difficult to calibrate - the result can be an abnormally low T-E ratio.

              Mayweather’s testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio for the April 3, 2013, sample was 0.80. His testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio for the Aug. 18, 2011, sample was 0.69.

              “That’s a warning flag,” says Don Catlin. “If you’re serious about the testing, it tells you to do the CIR test.”

              The Nevada State Athletic Commission wasn’t as knowledgeable with regard to PED testing several years ago as it is now. Commission personnel might not have understood the possible implications of the 0.69 and 0.80 numbers. But USADA officials were knowledgeable.


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              • Spoon has to always post loads of paragraph speculations from Conte but when Conte, asked about Pacquiao, he only concludes to two sentences at best! lol




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                  • when Spoon loses the war in debates he goes back to posting comical pics and bump threads, meanwhile more mature pics like these show up!!

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                    • Originally posted by SugarKaineHook View Post
                      All boxers are frauds. :
                      Not all bud. There are a few bad apples like Froid that ruins the image of our much loved sport. But yes PEDS is a form of cheating Sugarkainehook.

                      Taking Peds ruins and taints a win. We only hope there are more honest boxers around, unlike those who say they want to clean up the sport from peds and later we find out he's actually the biggest hypocrite of all.

                      We can only hope there won't be anymore like him in the sport that we love.

                      Cheers!

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