who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

[Dosumpthin]

Yes nsac allows IVS, but it conflicts to the testing program that this athletes signed for. Plus nsac is the only soul organization that permits IV treatment with their consent.

So you are saying NSAC needs to be notified about the IV usage? This is new. I need proof.

Are you confusing this with being a TUE? Then yes, NSAC needs to be notified of a when why and how a prohibited method or drug being USED - so NSAC can issue a TUE.

IV use not prohibited. No TUE needed from NSAC.


But you are saying they need to be notified ANYWAY PRIOR so they can APPROVE something that's already Approved of?


The content nor the method was prohibited.




And I understand perfectly WADA and USADA rules. Hence the TUE was required.
50ml is not enough to rehydrate an 8yo school girl so 750ml is not alarming to me. Don't know why you pointed that out.


And just to go on record are you saying Floyd USED an IV masking Agent for each of the test? Can you give me a definitive answer to this one question. Thanks

[travestyny]

Still trying to figure out how Floyd beat all these test by using an iv on may2nd.

What is the accusation? The b12 vitiman boost is why he beat pac? Is that how he cheated? Lol.

To say Floyd was masking throughout the entire testing period seems a bit far fetched even for the extreme conspiracy theorists.

So What is the accusation? The iv was ultimately proven to be LEGAL within NASC And within USADA due to the RETROACTIVE TUE. WADA didn't disapprove.

So what is the accusation? Is he using ADVANCED peds that aren't detectable? Is that why he hired ariza? Was memo involved? If so, Then why the need to mask?


I'm confused about the whole Floyd ped accuasations. Dissappointed that people don't take the time to fact check. Frustrated by people who intentionally distort the FACTS to promote their agenda.

People that hate Mayweather are trying to spin this anyway they can. It's actually pathetic. Even when everyone, including Pacquaio's team have moved on, who by the way decided against filing an appeal to the NSAC. This is a non-story that some are holding on to because they don't like the result of the May 2nd bout. That's all.

[Spoon23]

No. You failed to mention that Floyd gave urine before the IV. You failed to show that NSAC has to give permission for an athlete to have an IV. I've never, ever seen that, so where is that information? You are also blatantly wrong that a TUE has to be pre-approved. Retroactive TUE's are allowed and discussed in the ISTUE guidelines.

Please do some research.

It's over bud.

Reached for comment about the SB Nation piece, Bennett told the Review-Journal on Wednesday that he doesn't have a problem with Mayweather, but he does have a problem with the USADA.


"As far as USADA, I was extremely disappointed that I wasn't notified right away (about Mayweather receiving an IV). When it comes to TUE, we are the sole agency that approves the administering of TUEs. USADA, nor any other anti-doping agency that does drug testing, doesn't have the authority to adminster a TUE.

"The bottom line is USADA didn't keep us informed, which is totally unacceptable and unprofessional."


It's over. The poll is the icing in the cake.

What you flotards fail to see is the obvious biased decisions made for one guy not named Pacquiao. The inconsistencies paints a bad picture that you guys just love turning a blind eye to.

[Spoon23]

So you are saying NSAC needs to be notified about the IV usage? This is new. I need proof.

Are you confusing this with being a TUE? Then yes, NSAC needs to be notified of a when why and how a prohibited method or drug being USED - so NSAC can issue a TUE.

IV use not prohibited. No TUE needed from NSAC.


But you are saying they need to be notified ANYWAY PRIOR so they can APPROVE something that's already Approved of?


The content nor the method was prohibited.




And I understand perfectly WADA and USADA rules. Hence the TUE was required.
50ml is not enough to rehydrate an 8yo school girl so 750ml is not alarming to me. Don't know why you pointed that out.


And just to go on record are you saying Floyd USED an IV masking Agent for each of the test? Can you give me a definitive answer to this one question. Thanks

here to repeat..

Reached for comment about the SB Nation piece, Bennett told the Review-Journal on Wednesday that he doesn't have a problem with Mayweather, but he does have a problem with the USADA.

"As far as USADA, I was extremely disappointed that I wasn't notified right away (about Mayweather receiving an IV). When it comes to TUE, we are the sole agency that approves the administering of TUEs. USADA, nor any other anti-doping agency that does drug testing, doesn't have the authority to adminster a TUE.

"The bottom line is USADA didn't keep us informed, which is totally unacceptable and unprofessional."

[Dosumpthin]

People that hate Mayweather are trying to spin this anyway they can. It's actually pathetic. Even when everyone, including Pacquaio's team have moved on, who by the way decided against filing an appeal to the NSAC. This is a non-story that some are holding on to because they don't like the result of the May 2nd bout. That's all.

It's insane to say the least. I'm all for a debate, but please use logic based on facts.

Just trying to get the real accusation here. Are they saying he was CONTINUOUSLY USED AN IV or was he getting a morning ariza ped shake? How did he beat the test? Lay it out there. Why keep beating a dead horse. They agreed to a RETRO ACTIVE TUE.
So what. Explain how he beat multiple drug test before and after he used the IV.

Or accept the fact he used an iv for medical reasons. Or a vitamin boost. Whatever. Are the mad he had more vitamin an Gatorade than Pac on may2nd? Really? They both passed all test. Case closed.

[travestyny]

It's over bud.

Reached for comment about the SB Nation piece, Bennett told the Review-Journal on Wednesday that he doesn't have a problem with Mayweather, but he does have a problem with the USADA.


"As far as USADA, I was extremely disappointed that I wasn't notified right away (about Mayweather receiving an IV). When it comes to TUE, we are the sole agency that approves the administering of TUEs. USADA, nor any other anti-doping agency that does drug testing, doesn't have the authority to adminster a TUE.

"The bottom line is USADA didn't keep us informed, which is totally unacceptable and unprofessional."


It's over. The poll is the icing in the cake.

What you flotards fail to see is the obvious biased decisions made for one guy not named Pacquiao. The inconsistencies paints a bad picture that you guys just love turning a blind eye to.

I love that they had a problem with USADA when this first happened, because it showed that they weren't all bought out and working together as you try to make it seem. In that very same quotation, they also said:

"Floyd has always been a proponent of drug testing, which I applaud. He's set a fine example for all to emulate," Bennett said. "He's never tested positive in his entire career for any performance-enhancing drugs and, as a commission, we have no problem with Floyd Mayweather."

And then obviously they understood USADA's point when they pointed out there would be no reason for NSAC to grant a TUE since it's not against their rules.

But you are right. It's over

[Combat Talk Radio]

The only one there who has not be associated with a real PED dealer or did anything illegal is Pacquiao.

So...I take it you've never Googled "Ariza Shakes" in your life. Mmmkay

[Dosumpthin]

here to repeat..

Reached for comment about the SB Nation piece, Bennett told the Review-Journal on Wednesday that he doesn't have a problem with Mayweather, but he does have a problem with the USADA.

"As far as USADA, I was extremely disappointed that I wasn't notified right away (about Mayweather receiving an IV). When it comes to TUE, we are the sole agency that approves the administering of TUEs. USADA, nor any other anti-doping agency that does drug testing, doesn't have the authority to adminster a TUE.

"The bottom line is USADA didn't keep us informed, which is totally unacceptable and unprofessional."

Now I'm confused. You just said NSAC allows IV use l in your previous post. Now you bring up this quote that he already recanted.

So why do they need a "the****utic use exemption" to use something that isn't exempt?

And can you answer my question? Do you believe Floyd USED ivs for each test?

[Dosumpthin]

I love that they had a problem with USADA when this first happened, because it showed that they weren't all bought out and working together as you try to make it seem. In that very same quotation, they also said:

"Floyd has always been a proponent of drug testing, which I applaud. He's set a fine example for all to emulate," Bennett said. "He's never tested positive in his entire career for any performance-enhancing drugs and, as a commission, we have no problem with Floyd Mayweather."

And then obviously they understood USADA's point when they pointed out there would be no reason for NSAC to grant a TUE since it's not against their rules.

But you are right. It's over

Pretty much. But I noticed spoon is one of the posters that will start a new thread saying the same thing as if this Was never revealed to him.

Pretty Interesting.

[Rath]

Now I'm confused. You just said NSAC allows IV use l in your previous post. Now you bring up this quote that he already recanted.

So why do they need a "the****utic use exemption" to use something that isn't exempt?

And can you answer my question? Do you believe Floyd USED ivs for each test?

what was floyd's reason why he did IV?

was it because NSAC allowed it?

was it because it's legal in nevada?

was it because of a whim?

was it because he was just tripping?

he's reason was he was dehydrated.
but we already established that he was not dehydrated so what's next?