who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

[Spoon23]

So you are saying NSAC needs to be notified about the IV usage? This is new. I need proof.


And just to go on record are you saying Floyd USED an IV masking Agent for each of the test? Can you give me a definitive answer to this one question. Thanks

Dude, everyone knows that's the method of Lance Armstrong. Saline is a form of masking ped testing. Don't act dumb now.

flushing out your system with an IV has been widely reported as a way to beat those early tests.
Lot's of smoke here...

Something is amiss here, 50ml is like 1.67 total ounces. A bag of I.V. at a hospital is 1000ml total. calling this treatment for dehydration is just ******, a bottle of pedialyte would've done him more good over a 24 hour period of time than a one time 50ml drip. I guess until they release more details all we can do is guess the purpose of it because right now it makes little to no sense at all.



There was an agreement between 2 parties. Floyd and pac should follow both USADA , whcih is under WADA, and Nsac since it is in nevada.

USADA testing which is under WADA code. Which means they will follow the wada code protocol for stringent testing. Using IVS especially 750 ml of saline in one sitting ruins the blood testing of an athlete. Which clearly Floyd did, and alarmingly allowed by USADA. When USADA should know better it dilutes the consistency of the blood which therefore, makes blood testing an athlete inconclusive. That alone shows maliciousness in the part of USADA and Floyd.

Yes nsac allows IVS, but it conflicts to the testing program that this athletes signed for. Plus nsac is the only soul organization that permits IV treatment with their consent. Which obviously they didn't consent since, nsac commission admitted not being informed by USADA. They were only informed 3 weeks after the fight. Which technically Floyd went in the ring illegally using IVS without proper consent and direct violation of wada code.

Then after 3 weeks, a magical thing happened they permitted a TUE that has already been done. TUE is only done before the act not after an act. Corruption at its finest. So much inconsistency shows biased and favoritism for the home town boy.

[Rath]

Pretty much. But I noticed spoon is one of the posters that will start a new thread saying the same thing as if this Was never revealed to him.

Pretty Interesting.

"Lance has always been a proponent of drug testing, which I applaud. He's set a fine example for all to emulate," Bennett said. "He's never tested positive in his entire career for any performance-enhancing drugs and, as a commission, we have no problem with Lance Armstrong."

how's this sounds to you, familiar?

[Spoon23]

Now I'm confused. You just said NSAC allows IV use l in your previous post. Now you bring up this quote that he already recanted.

So why do they need a "the****utic use exemption" to use something that isn't exempt?

And can you answer my question? Do you believe Floyd USED ivs for each test?

You must be really slow.

Nsac allows if they give them permission to do so.

Before the act not after the act.

retroactively is just not how the world works bud. Dont be dumb now.

[Spoon23]

Floyd damaging retroactive didn’t agree @ 9:10 (retroactive treatment)






You can't retroactively get permission to do something that was already done.

If that was the case then Pac should have just got a pain killer injection in the shoulder in the bathroom and just have said he was taking a deuce, then three weeks after he knocked out Floyd, get an exemption for the shot he got without permission because it wasn't illegal from the beginning.

Makes no f@cking sense now does it?

It's a double standard and that shouldn't fly.

The commission are pieces of bias sh%ts.

This whole mess is an act of biaseness that screams favoritism and corruption.

[Dosumpthin]

Dude, everyone knows that's the method of Lance Armstrong. Saline is a form of masking ped testing. Don't act dumb now.

flushing out your system with an IV has been widely reported as a way to beat those early tests.
Lot's of smoke here...

Something is amiss here, 50ml is like 1.67 total ounces. A bag of I.V. at a hospital is 1000ml total. calling this treatment for dehydration is just ******, a bottle of pedialyte would've done him more good over a 24 hour period of time than a one time 50ml drip. I guess until they release more details all we can do is guess the purpose of it because right now it makes little to no sense at all.



There was an agreement between 2 parties. Floyd and pac should follow both USADA , whcih is under WADA, and Nsac since it is in nevada.

USADA testing which is under WADA code. Which means they will follow the wada code protocol for stringent testing. Using IVS especially 750 ml of saline in one sitting ruins the blood testing of an athlete. Which clearly Floyd did, and alarmingly allowed by USADA. When USADA should know better it dilutes the consistency of the blood which therefore, makes blood testing an athlete inconclusive. That alone shows maliciousness in the part of USADA and Floyd.

Yes nsac allows IVS, but it conflicts to the testing program that this athletes signed for. Plus nsac is the only soul organization that permits IV treatment with their consent. Which obviously they didn't consent since, nsac commission admitted not being informed by USADA. They were only informed 3 weeks after the fight. Which technically Floyd went in the ring illegally using IVS without proper consent and direct violation of wada code.

Then after 3 weeks, a magical thing happened they permitted a TUE that has already been done. TUE is only done before the act not after an act. Corruption at its finest. So much inconsistency shows biased and favoritism for the home town boy.

Ok just to sum it up. You are saying Floyd USED the same or similar method to beat drug testing that lance USED. Is that a fair assement?

Can you go on record and officially say Floyd flushed his system before each test? Because that's what you are implying. Not playing dumb, I just want the answer. Not a link or a reference to lance. I want it from you. No cliches. Just state it now today right here

[Spoon23]

Ok just to sum it up. You are saying Floyd USED the same or similar method to beat drug testing that lance USED. Is that a fair assement?

Can you go on record and officially say Floyd flushed his system before each test? Because that's what you are implying. Not playing dumb, I just want the answer. Not a link or a reference to lance. I want it from you. No cliches. Just state it now today right here

it's called intelligent assumptions to facts that are laid out. Dont be dumb now.

fact = saline is a masking agent to mask blood to allow cheating athletes to hide peds so they can cheat. Fact

fact = Floyd agreed to usada testing therefore, taking illegal means that destroys the testing integrity reeks biasness and corruption.

but off course you wont get that too lol

[Dosumpthin]

Floyd damaging retroactive didn’t agree



You can't retroactively get permission to do something that was already done.

If that was the case then Pac should have just got a pain killer injection in the shoulder in the bathroom and just have said he was taking a deuce, then three weeks after he knocked out Floyd, get an exemption for the shot he got without permission because it wasn't illegal from the beginning.

Makes no f@cking sense now does it?

It's a double standard and that shouldn't fly.

The commission are pieces of bias sh%ts.

This whole mess is an act of biaseness that screams favoritism and corruption.

Ok let's slow down here. Take a step back. A quick answer is toradol is a banned substance by NSAC. They weren't informed so they denied it. Ivs aren't banned by NSAC. Don't see favouritism but I see a lack of communication between pacs camp USADA and NSAC.


But back to IV use. Did he flush before each test? Please answer before you bring up another conspiracy. Thanks

[Spoon23]

[Dosumpthin]

it's called intelligent assumptions to facts that are laid out. Dont be dumb now.

fact = saline is a masking agent to mask blood to allow cheating athletes to hide peds so they can cheat. Fact

fact = Floyd agreed to usada testing therefore, taking illegal means that destroys the testing integrity reeks biasness and corruption.

but off course you wont get that too lol

Fact saline is used for treatment for a medical condition.


But that's not the issue here. Did he flush before each test? Maybe I'm dumb. But can you clear this up for me.

Did he flush before each test like lance?

[Spoon23]

Biased for the vegas home town boy is an understatement..

the toradol shot pacquiao requested is legal under usada guidelines. Their excuse was the request was not filed within sufficient time...but mayweather gets a retroactive exemption (meaning after the event has already taken place) for the****utic use. How is this getting lost on people?