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  • Originally posted by Zaroku View Post
    Great... But did you actually watch the fights or just caught up with post fight boxing videos????

    And then PAC said: "let there be light... The first day.."

    I am sure you miss spoon.
    Saw Ortiz bring down a tree 3 times .....

    Notice how long it takes those HWs to get up even if they are not that buzzed? Maybe they need to change the rules and give them another 3 seconds or so ..... at least for those that are just struggling to get up due to their size than the buzz that they are experiencing.

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    • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
      Just say you do not understand and please ADP02, explain it to me.


      There are plenty of interviews by athletes who would tell you otherwise. Just check out some of the things Lance Armstrong who paid off plenty of people had to do. Did he use an IV every time? No but did when he had to.

      Floyd and company was not expecting to be tested just before the weigh in. They did come knocking on Floyd's door. So Floyd delayed as much as he can to be tested. Also had an IV and drank a lot before giving the complete urine sample.

      BTW - We cannot say that Floyd did not use an IV prior to previous tests. Its just that they check for particles associated with IVs in their testing. So as long as Floyd can mask that too, they would be fine.

      The difference with that particular time is that Floyd was not expecting the DCO and had to delay and use an IV.
      hahahahaa. Stop it. You are killing me with your speculation.

      Again, no word about the partial urine sample from before the IV. No mention of the two tests he passed after the fight when the masking effect surely wore off. Maybe I should explain masking to you?

      So what scenario will you make up to account for those two things? Go ahead, make up more speculation so I can continue laughing.

      **edit**

      While you're at it, I'll go ahead and make up some speculation myself. Manny Pacquaio was micro-dosing since the fight was signed. He also took his favorite drug, Toradol, when the commission wasn't around. That's the reason that he was able to fight with a severely torn rotator cuff and show no pain..never even stopped throwing punches.

      See what I did there? Did you enjoy my story?
      Last edited by travestyny; 03-06-2016, 02:44 AM.

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      • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
        hahahahaa. Stop it. You are killing me with your speculation.

        Again, no word about the partial urine sample from before the IV. No mention of the two tests he passed after the fight when the masking effect surely wore off. Maybe I should explain masking to you?

        So what scenario will you make up to account for those two things? Go ahead, make up more speculation so I can continue laughing.
        I already explained all that.

        Partial samples are combined then tested as sample A and B. Its exactly what Floyd hoped for!

        I gave you 2 scenarios for fight night testing. I need to explain it again?

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        • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
          I already explained all that.

          Partial samples are combined then tested as sample A and B. Its exactly what Floyd hoped for!

          I gave you 2 scenarios for fight night testing. I need to explain it again?
          ahahahaha. Really?

          Please tell me, does combining urine that has not been "masked" with urine that has been "masked" make one more likely or less likely to pass the test?

          I'll wait...

          And as for your "scenarios"....you might as well just used the word "speculation."

          I remember one of your "scenarios" being that he took another IV. Did they have one waiting for him in the back of the venue? They secretly whisked him away and plugged him in? When did he find the time to poke that bad boy in? lol You are a joke.
          Last edited by travestyny; 03-06-2016, 02:52 AM.

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          • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
            Just say you do not understand and please ADP02, explain it to me.




            BTW - We cannot say that Floyd did not use an IV prior to previous tests. Its just that they check for particles associated with IVs in their testing. So as long as Floyd can mask that too, they would be fine.
            No need to explain. So Floyd using the iv to mask was also masking the masking agents they test for as well. Ohhhhh I get it....It's like iv to the infinity power......tripppppyyy.

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            • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
              hahahahaa. Stop it. You are killing me with your speculation.

              Again, no word about the partial urine sample from before the IV. No mention of the two tests he passed after the fight when the masking effect surely wore off. Maybe I should explain masking to you?

              So what scenario will you make up to account for those two things? Go ahead, make up more speculation so I can continue laughing.

              **edit**

              While you're at it, I'll go ahead and make up some speculation myself. Manny Pacquaio was micro-dosing since the fight was signed. He also took his favorite drug, Toradol, when the commission wasn't around. That's the reason that he was able to fight with a severely torn rotator cuff and show no pain..never even stopped throwing punches.

              See what I did there? Did you enjoy my story?

              Not speculation. That's pretty spot on.

              Red mark on his back from the injection of toradol.

              Kontz says they could've done it but weren't trying to hide anything.....then Manny admits they were trying to hide the injury from nsac.

              No pain during the fight.

              For a major injury that they knew about never addressed it in between rounds.

              Manny said the pain felt like a needle. How convenient.

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              • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                ahahahaha. Really?

                Please tell me, does combining urine that has not been "masked" with urine that has been "masked" make one more likely or less likely to pass the test?

                I'll wait...

                And as for your "scenarios"....you might as well just used the word "speculation."
                Remember that Floyd said he was so severely dehydrated that he requested to have an IV.

                The initial sample was NOT sufficient. It could have been a drop or maybe much more (just not sufficient).


                Do you know that the most common cause of high HT is dehydration? So when Floyd gave the sample BEFORE the IV, that was when he was supposed to be extremely dehydrated. Right?

                So when that gets combined with the sample after the IV then there is the possibility that the combined sample will turn up POSITIVE!!! If this did happen, Floyd can at least use the excuse that I just presented.


                While I'm sure this place would have gone crazy if it did turn up positive, it makes you wonder why it didn't, even though Floyd was supposed to be so severely dehydrated.

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                • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
                  No need to explain. So Floyd using the iv to mask was also masking the masking agents they test for as well. Ohhhhh I get it....It's like iv to the infinity power......tripppppyyy.

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                  • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                    Remember that Floyd said he was so severely dehydrated that he requested to have an IV.

                    The initial sample was NOT sufficient. It could have been a drop or maybe much more (just not sufficient).


                    Do you know that the most common cause of high HT is dehydration? So when Floyd gave the sample BEFORE the IV, that was when he was supposed to be extremely dehydrated. Right?

                    So when that gets combined with the sample after the IV then there is the possibility that the combined sample will turn up POSITIVE!!! If this did happen, Floyd can at least use the excuse that I just presented.


                    While I'm sure this place would have gone crazy if it did turn up positive, it makes you wonder why it didn't, even though Floyd was supposed to be so severely dehydrated.

                    You are really on a roll today!

                    Nowwww, it's a modern day miracle that the test wasn't positive. lol. Are you saying that dehydration would cause a false positive on USADA's tests?

                    Now I've heard it all. I love that you stuck around to answer. Now everyone can see how much you have fallen apart. Give it up. You're done.

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                    • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                      You are really on a roll today!

                      Nowwww, it's a modern day miracle that the test wasn't positive. lol. Are you saying that dehydration would cause a false positive on USADA's tests?

                      Now I've heard it all. I love that you stuck around to answer. Now everyone can see how much you have fallen apart. Give it up. You're done.

                      Just admit that you had no clue .... and now are stuck deflecting.

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