who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

[Spoon23]

Here is a Floyd fan checking in wishing the IV scandal will all go away. Then finds out its not going away and has to walk back out!

Yeah, he literally showed how he felt in that meme. He is so disgusted and helpless that this topic won't go away.. What he doesn't get is. It won't go away. It will forever be a stigma in Froid's life lmao

106 votes for Froid and still going strong!

Landslide victory for the fraud. Amazing!

[ADP02]

I respect someone who can openly admit mistakes.

Are you willing to admit you made a mistake about the word "or"?

Nope.

So you are ****ing DELUSIONAL.



Not being able to lift your arm is a symptom.

Torn rotator cuff is the cause.

Dehydration is a symptom.

The tue will show the cause.

Floyd in several interviews said the cause and never corrected this statement even though they know this is a big scandal. Go ask yourself why?

Even after this is a big issue, Floyd continues to tell YOU why Floyd was dehydrated but STILL you are too hard headed protecting Floyd from his own words and saying, "he is no doctor"

Floyd why the use of an IV?

"I was extremely dehydrated because I worked out hard and I was extremely dehydrated . I always work out hard not just for Manny"


You calling me delusional but its YOU Floyd fans coming back with crazy reasons as to how its all possible. Where is your proof? It does not even make any sense your speculations but you still go there. I'm actually the one who is bringing up the evidence that we already have but you do not like the evidence that we have so you hide .... even though Floyd opened his mouth and told you ...... and NO, Floyd new why he was dehydrated and Dr Ariza, I mean Floyd's paid doctor agreed with Floyd. That's all there is to it.

If that is not the truth then why does FLoyd continue to go there instead of saying "Go ask my doctor. This dehydration thing is too confusing for me to understand"

[ADP02]

Yeah, he literally showed how he felt in that meme. He is so disgusted and helpless that this topic won't go away.. What he doesn't get is. It won't go away. It will be forever be a stigma in Froid's life lmao

106 votes for Froid and still going strong!

Landslide victory for the fraud. Amazing!

here is more Floyd

""I'm a lot stronger even though I only walk around at 147". "Most guys have to drain themselves to come down. They doing that for 10 years."
"For 10 years I have been fighting at the weight that I walk around at 147. "When I do not train my weight fluctuates between 147 and 150. So I walk around 147/148. So that is why its easy for me to make the weight"


How can people come here with a straight face and still believe that Floyd was dehydrated to the point that he required an IV?


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[Spoon23]

here is more Floyd

""I'm a lot stronger even though I only walk around at 147". "Most guys have to drain themselves to come down. They doing that for 10 years."
"For 10 years I have been fighting at the weight that I walk around at 147. "When I do not train my weight fluctuates between 147 and 150. So I walk around 147/148. So that is why its easy for me to make the weight"


How can people come here with a straight face and still believe that Floyd was dehydrated to the point that he required an IV?


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Wow! That's the closest you can catch a crook in admitting he's a crook lmao

Froid roid stinks a mile away.. Actually not just a mile, it's more like over oceans and seas lol


Here you go. Even in other fights, its relatively stable.

[Zaroku]

Let's discuss this statement with the link you provided. First, there is this:


Is it this statement that "confirms that treating mild dehydration is not an acceptable medical use of IV in sports?" Doesn't the above statement just say that the use of an IV to treat mild to moderate dehydration is unsupported by medical literature? Yes. Now, how the hell do you think that's the same statement?

or maybe it was this part of USADA's medical information:



Does this say that IV use is not acceptable for treating mild dehydration in sports? Seems it only states that it is well established that drinking is the preferred choice to treat dehydration. Hmm. I don't see any statement that is the same as the one you provided.

Now, where did it say that the use of IV infusions to treat mild dehydration or simply accelerate recovery IS NOT an acceptable medical use of IVs in sport? NOWHERE. The statements above are nowhere near strong enough to state IV's to treat dehydration are unacceptable. It simply seeks to reinforce to the TUEC that oral rehydration should be the way to go unless there is justification otherwise. Unfortunately, all of this is a moot point anyway because even if you were right about WADA's stance (which clearly you are not if based on the above information alone), this still doesn't help you prove the IV wasn't justified by a medical practitioner.

Let's look further:


You're placing all of your eggs in this basket, yet do you know that Floyd's condition was mild dehydration? Nope. You don't even know if it was acute or chronic, which brings me to the next point:

Let's look further at WADA's medical information that you've been pointing to. This one should cause you some real embarrassment:


Lol. Once again, you've been made to look ridiculous for not knowing what OR means. Is it more clear to you in this statement? Why don't you take some time out to admit that you were wrong about this. Maybe while you are at it, you can admit that you don't know what the hell you are talking about when it comes to any of this.

Let's look further:




Yep, that seems like they are pretty much in sync, don't you think? lol According to you, they give contradictory information? Can you point this contradictory information out using statements from USADA and statements from WADA? And if you can't, will you admit that you are wrong yet again?


Oh, and you should notice this:


Yep, like I said. A medical practitioner is allowed to justify the IV. Do you have any proof that the medical practitioner didn't do this in Floyd's case?

And finally, this one is the straw that breaks your back:


When you can prove that Floyd's dehydration didn't cause hyponatremia, or any other condition that makes the IV more effective than oral hydration, then you may have some legs to stand on. Until then.... You got nothing, kid. Time for you to admit it and let it go.

I got one question:

Can anyone tell me where this non existent investigation into Floyd, PAC and Marquez??

[Real King Kong]

Here is a Floyd fan checking in wishing the IV scandal will all go away. Then finds out its not going away and has to walk back out!

Umm yea...that's what it is lol. Keep on fighting the good fight f@ggots

[ADP02]

As if you have some information about exactly what happened, but you don't. When people tell you that you don't have enough information, you pretend that you do.

How many Floyd fans waited for proof before bashing Manny who stated that he had a shoulder injury? They didn't wait to hear no doctor. Even after they did, they were still bashing.



Sorry but you do not need to be a doctor to explain to people that you were dehydrated.

Sorry but you do not need to be a doctor to understand and explain to people why you were dehydrated and say that it was because of his training.

Only a few Floyd fans believe that silliness!!!

We've been over this already:

1.NSAC has NEVER been able to diagnose someone with dehydration. NEVER as far as I can see. THEIR INFORMATION CAN NOT BE CONSIDERED WHEN WE KNOW THAT ATHLETES HAVE BEEN DEHYDRATED BEFORE MATCHES under NSAC jurisdiction.

2. YES, for the millionth time, he said he was dehydrated. He is a professional boxer. Unless you were in his camp and monitoring him, you have no proof otherwise.

3. He couldn't urine? Does that mean he couldn't urinate at all? He gave a partial sample and you know it, so stop with the slick ****.

4. Ariza monitored him. So what? Once again, you know that boxers are most concerned with rehydration after the weigh-in. Is your argument that no boxer that has a strength and conditioning coach experiences dehydration? This is a joke.

5. Just because you can physically drink does not mean it is the most effective method to return you back to a normal state. I've already proven this.

1. NSAC has come up with evidence against athletes who over-hydrate and used that against the athlete. So its important to know ....
Secondly, NSAC is saying that they are the sole authority on TUEs. So why was USADA approving TUEs? That is a fake TUE approval!

2. I did not have to be in his camp. The events that lead up to the IV were recorded. If it was brought to court, all that would be used and you know it.

Lawyer: So Floyd you make weight easily, your walking weight, fight night weight, weigh in weight, 30 days out weight are relatively stable yet you claim that you were "severely dehydrated" and that is why you needed an IV? Sorry Floyd but science is not on your side!



3. Partial means not full. Right? So if he could have given more then USADA would have had a complete sample beforehand. Get it?

4. "Ariza monitored so what" I love this line. Why? Remember the DCO that day? What was he doing? "The DCO who continued to monitor Mr. Mayweather throughout the administration of the IV." Like we kept on telling you, "SO WHAT that the DCo monitored!!!"

Floyd is not like those other fighters who need to rehydrate 15-20lbs.

5. Floyd was at worst, mildly dehydrated. Like I told you a million times, we know why because Floyd told us. You are using ignorance as a defense. even then, its still called very mild dehydration. WADA, USADA, studies all have proven you wrong time and time again that for mild dehydration and they even bring up moderate dehydration orally is very effective. On top of that, Floyd was not even training that day. ITs all a big joke!


GlobalDRO
"WADA has clarified that the use of IV infusions to treat mild dehydration or simply accelerate recovery IS NOT an acceptable medical use of IVs in sport. "


STUDIES
"Participants went from mildly dehydrated to fully hydrated in 45 minutes by consuming 600mL of water."


USADA
•Monitor fluid losses: Weigh-in before and after training, especially during hot weather and conditioning phases of the season
•For each pound lost during exercise, drink three cups of fluid

WADA
It must be clearly stated that the use of IV fluid replacement following exercise to correct mild rehydration is not clinically indicated nor substantiated by the medical literature. There is a well-established body of scientific opinion to confirm that oral rehydration is the preferred
the****utic choice, deemed by some authorities as being even more effective than the parenteral option.


WADA
No permitted alternative treatment exists.

WADA
Other non-prohibited alternative treatments
Oral rehydration or oral delivery of medication

Like this!!!!:
"A summary of the athlete’s history and the findings of a physical examination should confirm the diagnosis and establish the need for an IV infusion. A precise description of the clinical situation and specific medical indication for the IV infusion must be given in the TUE application."

What information do you have that shows this was not done? PROOF! That's what we need. You have the burden of proof. Let's hear your proof that that was not done. If you can't provide any, it's time to move on! I'll be waiting for this solid proof.

You do not want to get it. The data is already there that shows that FLoyd was slightly dehydrated at worst. You said but we need to take into consideration that FLoyd's walking weight was much higher. Well I proved to you again using Floyd's own statements that it was about the same as his fight night weight if not less.

There is no indication of severe dehydration so you keep on hiding behind Lance's, I mean Dr Ariza's, I mean Floyd's paid doctor's note. lol!!!

Well look at all of this deflection and speculation. This is embarrassing. Lance Armstrong, Ben Johnson, and your doctor have nothing to do with this. Who the hell cares about your doctor???? Can you imagine this going to court and the prosecution calling your doctor to the stand??? Really? This is a joke. You deflect to bring up everyone that you can and then you say there was no need for an IV based on....nothing. His weight?

Embarrassing is trying to defend Floyd. He was not dehydrated to the point of requiring an IV. So you hide behind Floyd's paid doctor's note.

You check out any case and the defended can get you an expert or doctor to defend even though the guy is guilty. That is all that I'm saying and you know it!

Have you admitted that it could have been chronic dehydration yet? Do you have any information when this chronic dehydration could have first occurred? Oh, you don't have any of this information???

Chronic? Are you seriously bringing this up again? Floyd admitted that he weighed close to fight night weight if not lower!!!! Please stop defending this crime!!!


read this and weep!!!!!!
"I'm a lot stronger even though I only walk around at 147". "Most guys have to drain themselves to come down. They doing that for 10 years."
"For 10 years I have been fighting at the weight that I walk around at 147. "When I do not train my weight fluctuates between 147 and 150. So I walk around 147/148. So that is why its easy for me to make the weight"


You still think Floyd was dehydrated?

1. Can you show that their statement is explicitly the same statement given in WADA's documents? You can't. If you could, you would have done so already.

2. EVEN IF that information was correct, it does not preclude Floyd rightfully being granted a TUE based upon the medical practitioner's information.

Those exact words are not there because they are pointing out that its a clarification to what is in WADA's documentation. Not hard to understand.

But can you admit that you are wrong?

[B]In situations of medical emergency or clinical time constraints, a retroactive TUE application is acceptable B]

Still waiting to hear what you thought of this. Were you right or wrong?

Furthermore, never heard what you thought about this:
"When a potentially chronic medical condition is first diagnosed, it may be advisable to grant a TUE for a shorter period until the medical regime is stabilized."

Exactly what I had been telling you. That it depends on when the condition is first diagnosed. Will you admit that you were wrong?

and still waiting to know what you think about this:
"Oral rehydration is usually highly effective, yet there may be cases such as documented hyponatremia where hypertonic saline by IV is more effective than oral treatments."

So all of your gifs of Floyd drinking water is now irrelevant. You aren't fooling anyone and you know it.

Will you admit that you COULD be wrong about this whole thing?

You are still with this chronic condition!!!! Floyd didn't have that. So why are you still with this stuff? You guys just want to find loopholes.


WADA
Circumstances are considered to be exceptional when, for example, a TUE cannot be granted in time through no fault of the Athlete.
Thus, an Athlete with a chronic illness must request a TUE 30 days prior to an event. Nevertheless, the case of a normally healthy Athlete suddenly affected by a significant medical condition some days prior to an event, and unable to request a TUE within the allotted time to enable the TUEC to grant the TUE, may be considered as an “exceptional circumstance”.

Suddenly means acute ....


Athletes should remember that the TUE Application should be submitted at least 30 days before participating in an event


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[ADP02]

Umm yea...that's what it is lol. Keep on fighting the good fight f@ggots

Watch it Stevey, you already got in trouble before ....

[ADP02]

Wow! That's the closest you can catch a crook in admitting he's a crook lmao

Froid roid stinks a mile away.. Actually not just a mile, it's more like over oceans and seas lol


Here you go. Even in other fights, its relatively stable.

Its all there ..... yet Floyd fans are in denial!

"I gotta first see what Floyd's doctor doctored" - Floyd fan

[Dosumpthin]

Floyd in several interviews said the cause and never corrected this statement even though they know this is a big scandal. Go ask yourself why?

Even after this is a big issue, Floyd continues to tell YOU why Floyd was dehydrated but STILL you are too hard headed protecting Floyd from his own words and saying, "he is no doctor"

Floyd why the use of an IV?

"I was extremely dehydrated because I worked out hard and I was extremely dehydrated . I always work out hard not just for Manny"


You calling me delusional but its YOU Floyd fans coming back with crazy reasons as to how its all possible. Where is your proof? It does not even make any sense your speculations but you still go there. I'm actually the one who is bringing up the evidence that we already have but you do not like the evidence that we have so you hide .... even though Floyd opened his mouth and told you ...... and NO, Floyd new why he was dehydrated and Dr Ariza, I mean Floyd's paid doctor agreed with Floyd. That's all there is to it.

If that is not the truth then why does FLoyd continue to go there instead of saying "Go ask my doctor. This dehydration thing is too confusing for me to understand"

Floyd also said he was dehydrated due to giving urine, blood and due to old age.

That makes him a pretty ****** doctor. Good news, he is a boxer.

Mike Tyson in a post fight interview said "I broke my back". Good thing he isn't a doctor either.

So you don't know **** and all you can do is speculate. Delusional.



WADA has not reversed the tue issued by USADA.

ZERO SPECULATION.

See how easy that was?