who among suspected PED user got away the most: Pacquaio, Mayweather or Marquez?

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  • ADP02
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    #2091
    Originally posted by Dosumpthin
    OFFICIAL COLOR GUIDE

    RUMOR = purple
    SPECULATION = blue
    MISINFORMATION = orange

    FACT= red

    - USADA approved the iv use.... BUT THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO IN NEVADA!

    - NSAC does not ban the iv use ..... BUT NSAC is the sole authority in approving all TUEs

    - NSAC did not require a tue ..... BUT NSAC is the sole authority in approving all TUEs

    - WADA has not reversed the tue.... BUT they more than likely never reviewed the TUE.

    - IV rehydration is common in combat sports.... but is banned under WADA rules. In other words, they cannot rehydrate using IVs. It has been clarified as well.

    - Floyd followed all rules provided by the ADO.... BUT NSAC is the sole authority in approving all TUEs

    - Floyd passed all test ..... BUT when the DCO came unexpectedly on May 1st, Floyd delayed giving his sample 6 hours and drank a lot and used an IV which is prohibited.

    - Floyd provided urine before and after IV.... BUT delayed 6 hours and sample was combined which made that test useless!!!

    - Thomas Hauser admitted he was wrong about Floyd being "caught".... Hauser actually said that he accepts USADA's version of the story.

    - Floyd has never failed a drug test .... but has used prohibited method, had questionable T/E results and delayed giving his urine sample at least twice that we know of. Floyd also took Xylocaine prior to fights, and rumored to have failed 3 tests. Floyd's representatives pay good money to USADA which makes this unethical process. Also Lance Armstrong can make this claim except for when he came back with that retroactive prescription just like Floyd did with that retroactive TUE.

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    WADA ISTUE allows for retro active TUEs .... not for what Floyd had which was at worst, mildly dehydrated and that is even a stretch!!!
    WADA also states that other organizations can be the ones who are the approvers of TUEs ... like NSAC. So USADA made a mistake!!!


    - USADA is a WADA signatory.[/COLOR] ..... so is/was other organizations that have bent the rules at times.
    WADA also states that other organizations can be the ones who are the approvers of TUEs ... like NSAC. So USADA made a mistake!!!

    WRONG says NSAC!

    Read below on what NSAC says about USADA
    "USADA is supposed to be a drug-testing agency and not a TUE administrating organization. We were not made aware of this until several weeks after the fight, which is not acceptable procedure for the commission."

    Similarly, Bob Bennett told the Los Angeles Times, “USADA has historically been recognized as the world’s leading anti-doping authority. However, my experiences to date with them have been less than acceptable and less than professional.

    He [Mayweather] cannot have it done at his house and USADA can’t authorize it. I have specifically articulated and memorialized to USADA that [the NSAC] is the sole authority that can authorize a the****utic use exemption for a fighter in the state of Nevada. USADA never told us prior to the IV that they had their own TUE, and they never kept us informed about it being administered. If they think they can do what they want, where and whenever they want in the State of Nevada, they are grossly mistaken.”


    After three incidents here(by USADA), it’s hard to call this an anomaly,” Bennett from NSAC said. “USADA needs to understand they need to honor the rules of Nevada, or their work will not be recognized in Nevada.”

    STOP being naïve. Those statements you made do not mean that Floyd was not using a prohibited method or substance .... even articles that you Floyd fans showed us questioned Floyd's dehydration. STOP being naïve.


    On that illegal TUE approval, I doubt USADA let WADA know about NSAC's complaints on the validity of the retroactive TUE and that NSAC is the sole authority of approving TUEs in the state of Nevada.


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      #2092
      Originally posted by travestyny
      No. HE DID LIE. It's right there for you to see. Do you need to know a reason? This god fearing man is lying. Hmm. Let's keep going and learn more about Manny Pacquiao and his team.

      By the way, go look up some information about Toradol. Maybe you will understand then why he was so desperate to get his hands on this drug and was abusing it during training camp.


      Um...where is the lie? He stated reasons for his dehydration that you can't disprove, NSAC has nothing to do with dehydration as we both know, and the rest....just your normal jibber jabber.


      Let me get this straight. Pacquaio says that he was healed by GOD's WORK (direct quote), sometime after that, Roach who sees that his guy just stepped in major ****, claims that Pacquaio is LYING about it.

      Excuse me, but.....hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
      So either Roach is lying, or Manny lies even about his relationship to God. Congratulations, you've just become the must gullible creature on the face of this earth .





      Oh really???? lol. You just fuvked up, homie. Let's look at what the doctor said.




      YOU FUVKED UP TWICE HERE:

      1. You are reading information about a partial tear and saying that it applies to Pacquiao, when it was already stated that it is a FULL THICKNESS TEAR? Is that why you bolded "partial tear" and "three months"??? hahahaha. That's your first **** up

      2. The doctor is talking about whether Kobe can play with a full thickness tear. HE IS NOT TALKING ABOUT RECOVERY TIME AFTER THE SURGERY. You know you just ****ed up, right? He even clearly states that there is a 1 year window to fix it by surgery. Find me one doctor that says someone can recover from full thickness rotator cuff tear surgery completely in 3 months. Again, THIS IS ABOUT IF HE NEVER HAD SURGERY, NOT HOW QUICKLY HE WILL RECOVER AFTER THAT TYPE OF SURGERY.
      HAHAHAHAH. You truly clowned yourself, homie. You Pacroaches make this **** too easy because you have poor comprehension skills!



      Ha. Did you disprove chronic dehydration yet?

      Did you disprove the existence of a condition that would make IV rehydration more suitable than oral rehydration?

      I've asked you these questions over and over. You can't answer because you know none of the information you give applies.



      Oh really?????

      [IMG]http://i62.***********.com/albums/h95/travestyny/Screen%20Shot%202016-04-18%20at%209.09.20%20PM.png[/IMG]

      This is 7 MONTHS AFTER SURGERY. HIS FIRST TIME BACK ON THE COURT SHOOTING!!!! HAHAHAHAHAAHA. CLOWNED YOURSELF YET AGAIN!!!

      And how about Pacquaio. 3 months after surgery...shooting 3's. hahahaha. Get the **** out of here.



      I get it. Roach said the deeply religious Manny Pacquaio lied about God healing him in an attempt to save Pacquaio's ass. LMAO!!!!


      So let's recap:
      1. You all but admitted that the God fearing Manny Pacquaio lied instead of facing up to the music. I'm sure Jesus would be proud.

      2. You highlight information about a partial tear when you know that Pacquaio was diagnosed with a full thickness tear.

      3. You mistake being able to play sports with a full thickness rotator cuff tear with recovery from full thickness rotator cuff surgery. Oops!

      4. You attempt to prove me wrong by quoting Freddie Roach, who either makes it clear that Manny Pacquaio is doubling down on his lying, no less about his relationship to GOD, or Freddie Roach is lying himself. It has to be one of the two!

      5. Still no explanation for how Pacquaio was "miraculously" (yes, his business partner called it A MIRACLE), MIRACULOUSLY recovered from the surgery in 3 months. Even Arum couldn't spin this ****. By the way, here's what Arum had to say about the good doctor's view of this MIRACULOUS RECOVERY:

      "The doctor here was amazed when he saw pictures of his movement and everything…The doctor says he's got to see it himself.”

      Now, if the doctor proved me wrong, as you (mistakenly) suggested, why was he amazed and needs to see it to believe it???? LMAOOOOOO


      This was the most laughable response ever!!!!

      HA. NOT ONLY DO YOU LOSE. BUT YEP, YOU EARNED THIS.....

      Go back and read.

      Doctor talked about Kobe playing with a full/partial tear and not just for the game that he got injured but for more than 1 game. Right? You admitted this too above. Right? With Manny you said this was not possible to even lift his arms and so on. Well, for basketball, if you cannot lift up your arms, how can you even play?
      So you were wrong there.

      Doctor also brought up AFTER an operation:
      "“We operate on partial tears, too.… At that elite level, it’s six weeks till you’re doing major weight training, and at three months, you could be back playing basketball. It’s a much shorter rehab, and that’s a big deal.”
      So you were wrong there.


      BTW - Manny is not God. Manny can lie, cheat, steal, make mistakes .... Manny is not perfect .... but I provided you with other possibilities to your questions that you did not want to go there because his name is not Floyd.

      but I just proved to you that an athlete can do the things that you said are not possible.


      You showed your true side. With Floyd, you needed all information because all available information goes against Floyd requiring an IV. Manny you do not have the MRI (didn't have all information - according to you then its called speculation), but have what you wanted in Floyd's case (you have Manny's doctor's interview) but you said its BS. Right? I told you that it can be BS but you didn't go there with Floyd. HA!



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        #2093
        Originally posted by ADP02
        Go back and read.

        Doctor talked about Kobe playing with a full/partial tear and not just for the game that he got injured but for more than 1 game. Right? You admitted this too above. Right? With Manny you said this was not possible to even lift his arms and so on. Well, for basketball, if you cannot lift up your arms, how can you even play?
        So you were wrong there.

        Doctor also brought up AFTER an operation:
        "“We operate on partial tears, too.… At that elite level, it’s six weeks till you’re doing major weight training, and at three months, you could be back playing basketball. It’s a much shorter rehab, and that’s a big deal.”
        So you were wrong there.


        BTW - Manny is not God. Manny can lie, cheat, steal, make mistakes .... Manny is not perfect .... but I provided you with other possibilities to your questions that you did not want to go there because his name is not Floyd.

        but I just proved to you that an athlete can do the things that you said are not possible.


        You showed your true side. With Floyd, you needed all information because all available information goes against Floyd requiring an IV. Manny you do not have the MRI (didn't have all information - according to you then its called speculation), but have what you wanted in Floyd's case (you have Manny's doctor's interview) but you said its BS. Right? I told you that it can be BS but you didn't go there with Floyd. HA!



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        Why did Spoon get banned??? I miss him.
        F Floyd & F PAC, end silly thread!

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          #2094
          Originally posted by Zaroku
          Why did Spoon get banned??? I miss him.
          F Floyd & F PAC, end silly thread!
          I guess some Floyd fan reported him for something .... just a guess. We may find out when he comes back.

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            #2095
            Originally posted by ADP02
            I guess some Floyd fan reported him for something .... just a guess. We may find out when he comes back.
            He is posting in slow motion now. We will find out. I don't run to the mods, ever. I do blame that Tbear guy for getting me hooked on Banshee, but like a true addict I want more of his digital dope!!!

            War Tbear!!! I need more digital dope!!! Front me my next digital dope fix!!

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              #2096
              Originally posted by Zaroku
              He is posting in slow motion now. We will find out. I don't run to the mods, ever. I do blame that Tbear guy for getting me hooked on Banshee, but like a true addict I want more of his digital dope!!!

              War Tbear!!! I need more digital dope!!! Front me my next digital dope fix!!
              Maybe you can sub for Spoon ..... pick up the slack. Show us how its done!

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                #2097
                Originally posted by ADP02
                Maybe you can sub for Spoon ..... pick up the slack. Show us how its done!
                Let me think about that. Many Floyd fans don't like me cuz I claim Castillo won.
                I just might!!

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                  #2098
                  Originally posted by Zaroku
                  Let me think about that. Many Floyd fans don't like me cuz I claim Castillo won.
                  I just might!!
                  Floyd fans do not like Spoon either ...... . That makes you the perfect candidate.

                  Maybe can start with something that you would have deeper feelings for. It can be about Castillo, the champ, and how he should have been given the benefit of the doubt in some of those close rounds instead the judges gave it to Floyd.

                  Arum wanted the rematch in USA, California but Floyd said no, he didn't trust them judges if it were held in the LA area! HA!

                  How can you be called TBE if you do not even want to fight outside your hometown? HA!

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                    #2099
                    Originally posted by ADP02
                    Floyd fans do not like Spoon either ...... . That makes you the perfect candidate.

                    Maybe can start with something that you would have deeper feelings for. It can be about Castillo, the champ, and how he should have been given the benefit of the doubt in some of those close rounds instead the judges gave it to Floyd.

                    Arum wanted the rematch in USA, California but Floyd said no, he didn't trust them judges if it were held in the LA area! HA!

                    How can you be called TBE if you do not even want to fight outside your hometown? HA!
                    I may do that!! He is not TBE!

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                      #2100
                      Originally posted by ADP02
                      Go back and read.

                      Doctor talked about Kobe playing with a full/partial tear and not just for the game that he got injured but for more than 1 game. Right? You admitted this too above. Right? With Manny you said this was not possible to even lift his arms and so on. Well, for basketball, if you cannot lift up your arms, how can you even play?
                      So you were wrong there.
                      Don't try to spin this buddy. This is not what you were trying to say and you know it. The doctor made no clear statement about Paquaio continuing to fight with a full thickness tear. He's clearly stated that for Kobe Bryant, he'd have to take extra care and pain medication to do it, and it depends on how serious of a tear it is. Now what about throwing right hooks over 12 rounds? Does the doctor mention this? Keep fishing, homes.

                      Originally posted by ADP02
                      Doctor also brought up AFTER an operation:
                      "“We operate on partial tears, too.… At that elite level, it’s six weeks till you’re doing major weight training, and at three months, you could be back playing basketball. It’s a much shorter rehab, and that’s a big deal.”
                      So you were wrong there.
                      AHAHAHAHAHA. HOW AM I WRONG WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A PARTIAL TEAR????? THIS IS THE HEIGHT OF DESPERATION. IT WAS NOT STATED TO BE A PARTIAL TEAR. Wow. Never thought you would stoop to this level of desperation. It's really quite sad to see you like this.

                      Originally posted by ADP02
                      BTW - Manny is not God. Manny can lie, cheat, steal, make mistakes .... Manny is not perfect .... but I provided you with other possibilities to your questions that you did not want to go there because his name is not Floyd.

                      but I just proved to you that an athlete can do the things that you said are not possible.
                      You didn't prove ****. You got embarrassed because you thought you proved he could be fully healed in 3 months and then you realized you misinterpreted the doctor's information. lol. You embarrassed yourself is what you did. By the way, thanks for realizing your lord and savior is a liar

                      Originally posted by ADP02
                      You showed your true side. With Floyd, you needed all information because all available information goes against Floyd requiring an IV. Manny you do not have the MRI (didn't have all information - according to you then its called speculation), but have what you wanted in Floyd's case (you have Manny's doctor's interview) but you said its BS. Right? I told you that it can be BS but you didn't go there with Floyd. HA!
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                      Go find one doctor that says you can fully recover from a full thickness rotator cuff tear surgery in 3 months. Just one! I dare you. Until then, you lose on the Paquiao issue.

                      On the Floyd issue, disprove chronic dehydration and the existence of a condition that would make IV rehydration more appropriate than oral rehydration. This is like the eighth time I've asked you to do this.

                      You are failing miserably. Your desperate spin of the doctor's words is the most laughable of all.

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