Comments Thread For: Abel Sanchez Not Viewing Andre Ward's Inactivity as Advantage

[bug0092]

They did not make a verbal agreement.

Ward told Loeffler to STFU and stop lying to his fans.

Ward said he wasn't going to engage in the social media war. If Loeffler agrees to put an end to it, that means both parties will not discuss it. Has Ward lived up to his end of the bargain? Don't think so.

[bug0092]

That is blatantly avoiding Andre Ward.

First it was excuses..... then it was lies..... now it is promises

Some of you casual fans aint too smart.

Keep spinning those wheels son.

Without knowing the motivation, avoiding is open to quite a bit of interpretation. First of all, Golovkin doesn't owe Ward a fight. The promise of the fight has always been there if GGG and Ward both worked to build it. Ward hasn't put in the work. They've been brutally consistent about this. If you want to point to the offer Ward made to GGG as "avoiding" that's you're interpretation and yes the word applies. But, the offer was a LOUSY deal for GGG to have taken for a FEW reasons. So, even though GGG avoided Ward, he did so in the same way I avoid stepping in dog**** walking down my street.

[aboutfkntime]

keeping it real ?

building credibility ?

being true to the sport ?

You can still support Golovkin, just keep it real.

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Keeping it real, is NOT difficult.

Until you understand the importance of world champions being required to fight their mandatories at the sanctioned divisional limit, it's impossible to have a real discussion with you about Golovkin.

For what it's worth, I have never accused Ward of ducking Golovkin, just of spinning events to try and make it appear that Golovkin ducked him without a valid reason - like NOT wanting to move up and face the best SMW in the world for less money than he could make by staying in his own division.

This discussion has NOTHING to do with the Canelo situation.

We were discussing Ward/Golovkin.

You called Ward a COWARD for refusing a 164lb catchweight demand.

Then you supported Golovkin when he did the exact same thing to Canelo, despite the fact that Golovkin recently stated that he can beat anyone at 154.

I completely give up on you.

You are a hopeless, shameless, clueless, fanboy.

[aboutfkntime]

Ward said he wasn't going to engage in the social media war. If Loeffler agrees to put an end to it, that means both parties will not discuss it. Has Ward lived up to his end of the bargain? Don't think so.

No.

Ward stated that he never engages in internet/social media bickering.

With ANYONE, period !!

Then he told Loeffler to STFU and stop lying to his idiot fans.

It's all right here.....





Your assertion that they came to some kind of agreement, is bull****.

Ward stated that if they wanted to build the fight, they just need to be honest about it and say..... listen, we may go up to 168 to fight some of the lesser guys, but Andre is a little bit big for us right now, when we move up to 168 we would love to fight Andre Ward...... then he said "no problem, I can respect that, but until then, STOP LYING TO THE FANS !!".

But instead, we got the bull****, and you ran with the bull****.

[aboutfkntime]

Without knowing the motivation, avoiding is open to quite a bit of interpretation. First of all, Golovkin doesn't owe Ward a fight. The promise of the fight has always been there if GGG and Ward both worked to build it. Ward hasn't put in the work. They've been brutally consistent about this.

NO, it is not open to interpretation..... that is bull**** !!


avoid
əˈvɔɪd/Submit
verb
1.
keep away from or stop oneself from doing (something).


Suggesting that Ward hasn't put it the work is a ridiculous thing to say.

Absurd !!

Did Wade? Did Monroe? Did Rosado? Did Rubio? Did Stevens?

Don't be absurd, that is the very worst of the many ridiculous excuses they used to AVOID Andre Ward.

If you want to point to the offer Ward made to GGG as "avoiding" that's you're interpretation and yes the word applies. But, the offer was a LOUSY deal for GGG to have taken for a FEW reasons. So, even though GGG avoided Ward, he did so in the same way I avoid stepping in dog**** walking down my street.

I agree with the bold, let's just leave it there.

[aboutfkntime]

[bug0092]

No.

Ward stated that he never engages in internet/social media bickering.

With ANYONE, period !!

Then he told Loeffler to STFU and stop lying to his idiot fans.

It's all right here.....





Your assertion that they came to some kind of agreement, is bull****.

Ward stated that if they wanted to build the fight, they just need to be honest about it and say..... listen, we may go up to 168 to fight some of the lesser guys, but Andre is a little bit big for us right now, when we move up to 168 we would love to fight Andre Ward...... then he said "no problem, I can respect that, but until then, STOP LYING TO THE FANS !!".

But instead, we got the bull****, and you ran with the bull****.

I originally responded to this video you posted as proof of Ward dis*****g the HBO meeting Golovkin mentions in his Russian interview. IT DOESN"T. You failed.

Ward's engaged more in social media bickering the past two years than he's engaged in the ring. If he has a problem with GGG and wants to hold him responsible for everything his team says, he should tell Golovkin personally to STFU instead of his promoter.

[kafkod]

This discussion has NOTHING to do with the Canelo situation.

We were discussing Ward/Golovkin.

You called Ward a COWARD for refusing a 164lb catchweight demand.

Then you supported Golovkin when he did the exact same thing to Canelo, despite the fact that Golovkin recently stated that he can beat anyone at 154.

I completely give up on you.

You are a hopeless, shameless, clueless, fanboy.

I never called Ward a coward for refusing a 164 catchweight demand.

I posted a comment in response to you saying Ward should get up in the ring at the Cotto/Canelo show and publicly challenge GGG to move up to 168 and fight him.

You jumped on it and quoted it out of context to make it seem like I was calling him a coward.

Then you have the nerve to tell me to keep it real!

And GGG did not do the exact same thing with Canelo. I must have pointed out to you a dozen times that Golovkin was not trying to defend a SMW title against Ward at 1lb above the MW limit, so the 2 situations are in no way comparable.

Golovkin being Canelo's mandatory challenger makes the comparison even more absurd.

[kafkod]

Suggesting that Ward hasn't put it the work is a ridiculous thing to say.

Absurd !!

Did Wade? Did Monroe? Did Rosado? Did Rubio? Did Stevens?

Was GGG not told by the IBF that he had to fight Wade or be stripped of his title?

Did Monroe, Rosado, Rubio and Stevens try to fight Golovkin at 168 lbs?

Did any of them ask for 50% of the purse for fighting him?

[bug0092]

NO, it is not open to interpretation..... that is bull**** !!


avoid
əˈvɔɪd/Submit
verb
1.
keep away from or stop oneself from doing (something).


Suggesting that Ward hasn't put it the work is a ridiculous thing to say.

Absurd !!

Did Wade? Did Monroe? Did Rosado? Did Rubio? Did Stevens?

Don't be absurd, that is the very worst of the many ridiculous excuses they used to AVOID Andre Ward.





I agree with the bold, let's just leave it there.

My son "avoiding" his homework says something different about his character than my "avoiding" a pile of dog**** says about mine. One would also be correct to say Ward's been "avoiding" the inside of a boxing ring the past couple of years.

Wade, Monroe, Rubio, Stevens, etc are middleweights who were active and didn't ask for much more than their worth to fight GGG. In the meantime, Golovkin was chasing fights with Martinez, Cotto, Quillen...you know "champs" in his own division who ducked him.

GGG has had absolutely no incentive to fight Ward for the past couple of years because Ward's been INACTIVE. Instead of getting back in the ring and pressing for the GGG fight, Ward sat out. He's faced one pathetic opponent in a lone tune up in the past two years!!! (FACT) Is that what you'd call "putting in the work?". He then sends GGG an offer after Golovin's already signed up for the Lemieux fight with the Canelo/Cotto winner in the wings. Would you have taken that offer if you were GGG?...

The truth is Ward had plenty of fights he could've made the past couple of years to stay active at SMW and rebuild his name. He didn't. If he'd been busy like GGG's team had asked, he could've called their bluff and you'd have a solid argument that GGG is "avoiding" the fight as you imply. In fact, if that were the case, I'd actually say Golovkin ducked him. But he didn't, so you don't.