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  • MrRolltide91
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    #31
    Originally posted by PBP.
    This makes a lot of sense to me. This fight does no more than 125k in the US and shouldn't even be a PPV if you want to be real.

    They are all in for a rude awakening with Kovalev vs Ward. Neither if those guys can sell so how the hell is that a PPV fight? No way that event makes money.

    The PPV system is a dying model. You get better action fights on the smaller weekly cards than you do on these overhyped PPV busts.

    Pac/Barrera and Floyd/Corrales were way better fights than these and those were HBO matchups. Nowadays those fights would need marination and PPV to even happen.
    Agreed.....



    I don't even think wilder vs fury is ppv worthy


    What about you?
    Last edited by MrRolltide91; 02-01-2016, 11:28 PM.

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    • -PBP-
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      #32
      Originally posted by Francis M.
      FFS how ****** are you Stevenson nut huggers.

      They say Duva's #'s are inflated for live gate and PPV they they turn around request for joint promotion which means two broadcast team and double the production cost.

      Will bringing in showtime really improve the PPV#'s that much.

      Stevenson should just come up with a # that he wants and be done with it.
      Their team has been sitting around waiting for offers turning it down with out a solid #. They just want to do this joint promotion that was only justified for mega fights.

      Stevensons team is basically saying this fight is not that big?
      That was ****** too. But at least Stevenson's team is realistic. This is not a big fight at all. There isn't enough revenue to make it worthwhile for all parties involved.

      It's best we just move on at this stage.

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      • jimmy27
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        #33
        One card a year, like a super bowl of boxing PBC / HBO works together, best vs best , if boxing developed this, these shows would break 4 million within 2 to 3 years.

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          #34
          Originally posted by MrRolltide91
          Agreed.....



          I don't even think wilder vs fury is ppv worthy


          What about you?
          Nah. Wilder hasn't been a box office hit yet. You don't go from 500k viewers on Showtime to PPV.

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          • MrRolltide91
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            #35
            Originally posted by Francis M.
            FFS how ****** are you Stevenson nut huggers.

            They say Duva's #'s are inflated for live gate and PPV they they turn around request for joint promotion which means two broadcast team and double the production cost.

            Will bringing in showtime really improve the PPV#'s that much.

            Stevenson should just come up with a # that he wants and be done with it.
            Their team has been sitting around waiting for offers turning it down with out a solid #. They just want to do this joint promotion that was only justified for mega fights.

            Stevensons team is basically saying this fight is not that big?
            To be honest, this fight isn't that big.

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            • MrRolltide91
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              #36
              Originally posted by PBP.
              That was ****** too. But at least Stevenson's team is realistic. This is not a big fight at all. There isn't enough revenue to make it worthwhile for all parties involved.

              It's best we just move on at this stage.
              Yep this fight isn't even on canelo vs ggg level.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Steve plunger
                The fights not a big enough PPV event for both networks...it's just not.......look at the only 2 fights that had shared PPV and that's Lewis vs Tyson and mayweather vs pacquaio....that's it and you can plaster it all over the porter Thurman fight it won't add any more numbers to it than it already will have ....it's the same boxing audience.....the problem is the networks just won't work together and that's not gonna change till the fighters and there managers make it a fight by fight basis and they make a stipulation that they fight on a channel who gives the best rewards....trapping a fighter to an exclusive network ..HBO are guilty of this and so is PBC and showtime....they won't share the pie and if they don't get all the pie then then there's no pie made.... It's no different all through the divisions rival networks mean no unifications ..
                You just blatantly lied, why you guys always lie so much.

                You say neither pbc/showtime or HBO will share the pie, yet it was unequivocally stated that showtime came forward and said okay when asked to share the stevenson/kovalev fight and it was HBO and Duva who said HBO or no fight.

                Stop lying bra.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Vicious.
                  The numbers they presented are inflated as hell. But did they really think that bringing in showtime would actually help get them closer to that goal? Thats just plain ******ed. If they brought in showtime they would most likely bring in the same amount of numbers and would have to split it with them? Yeah ok
                  They'll split the costs and expenses too dumass so there's no loss either way. There is literally no reason not to make a joint effort.

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                  • Deevel916
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                    #39
                    It boils down to this not being a big enough fight for the networks to get together and try to split the pie. It's just not.

                    Kovalev has been making lots of noise but still isn't a mainstream star and Stevenson hasn't done anything of note since he left HBO and has been completely irrelevant. The only time his name is even mentioned is if kovalevs name is brought up.

                    This fight is barely a Ppv worthy fight let alone a Ppv fight that warrants 2 major networks to get together for.

                    At the end of the day it's Stevenson who loses. Kov has a mega fight scheduled for later this year vs Ward so long as everything goes according to plan. Who does Stevenson have lined up??

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                    • kej718
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                      #40
                      I'll say this again for the hundredth time. This fight is not PPV. We already saw what 2 non American fighters on PPV drew in GGG's last fight. He is the one guy HBO has been hyping up and people actually like him.


                      Just go to purse bid, and have the fight on ESPN, and add Max Kellerman to the broadcast team. More viewers will get the fight and more fans will be able to watch it. Or do a 2 fight deal 1 on HBO and the other on Showtime. If there is a need for a 3rd fight then put that on joint PPV. Put Ward and Beterbiev as 2 of the other fights on the card


                      We should start a petition for this.
                      Last edited by kej718; 02-02-2016, 12:44 AM.

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