Comments Thread For: Stevenson's Promoter Disputes Claims By Kovalev's Manager

[tiliheels]

networks working together for 2 times in 2 years...THAT IS REALLY PUSHING THE SPORT..MAKE IT HAPPEN

[tiliheels]

The fights not a big enough PPV event for both networks...it's just not.......look at the only 2 fights that had shared PPV and that's Lewis vs Tyson and mayweather vs pacquaio....that's it and you can plaster over the porter Thurmond fight it won't add any more numbers to it than it already will have ....it's the same addience...boxing audience.....the problem is the networks just won't work together and that's not gonna change till the fighters and there managers make it a fight by fight basis and they make a stipulation that they fight on a channel who gives the best rewards....trapping a fighter to an exclusive network ..HBO are guilty of this and so is PBC and showtime....they won't share the pie and if they don't get all the pie then then there's no pie made.... It's no different all through the divisions rival networks mean no unifications ..

THAT MAKES NO SENSE..THEY CAN SPLIT THE COST OF PPV! SO NO ONE TAKES A HIT!
but you are arguin his point dummy..he saying hbo's outreach alone cant sell this fight...they want to have pbc and showtime promoting it as well but they will fight on hbo!
use your head..the more ppl that it gets out to the more numbers they can do
i see one side willing to work and another telling lies..

[Pigeons]

Why would HBO be entrusted with the responsibility of staging this PPV? They weren't even able to secure 100K PPV buys for Golovkin's last fight, their golden goose.

Look at the top 5 PPVs of all-time:
1) Mayweather/Pacquiao SHO/HBO
2) Mayweather/De La Hoya HBO
3) Mayweather/Canelo SHO
4) Holyfield/Tyson II SHO
5) Lewis/Tyson HBO/SHO

Showtime has been involved in 4 of the 5 highest selling PPVs of all-time. HBO has been involved in 3. Showtime knows how to sell a fight as well as either network. HBO shouldn't act as a roadblock for this fight. If HBO cares about the sport, they would do anything possible to make this fight. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like that is going to happen.

[Teetotaler]

The numbers they presented are inflated as hell. But did they really think that bringing in showtime would actually help get them closer to that goal? Thats just plain ******ed. If they brought in showtime they would most likely bring in the same amount of numbers and would have to split it with them? Yeah ok

[tiliheels]

Why would HBO be entrusted with the responsibility of staging this PPV? They weren't even able to secure 100K PPV buys for Golovkin's last fight, their golden goose.

Look at the top 5 PPVs of all-time:
1) Mayweather/Pacquiao SHO/HBO
2) Mayweather/De La Hoya HBO
3) Mayweather/Canelo SHO
4) Holyfield/Tyson II SHO
5) Lewis/Tyson HBO/SHO

Showtime has been involved in 4 of the 5 highest selling PPVs of all-time. HBO has been involved in 3. Showtime knows how to sell a fight as well as either network. HBO shouldn't act as a roadblock for this fight. If HBO cares about the sport, they would do anything possible to make this fight. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like that is going to happen.

when the top dogs come together something amazing happens..hell they could even make a special for this bout "why we dont work together" lol showing why they hate each others guys and promote it to the ppl that a fight has to be great if we are going to do it so u have to buy this right

[tiliheels]

The numbers they presented are inflated as hell. But did they really think that bringing in showtime would actually help get them closer to that goal? Thats just plain ******ed. If they brought in showtime they would most likely bring in the same amount of numbers and would have to split it with them? Yeah ok

no it is not ******ed..pbc would freely promote the event on all of their networks..and also showtime would run it before/after their smash hits like shameless/billions/homeland
anytime showtime and hbo works together they overdue themselves..undrstand if it is hbo's job alone to promote only their subscribers see it..and w/e tv ads they take out..THAT DOES NOT WORK ANYMORE

[MrRolltide91]

The fights not a big enough PPV event for both networks...it's just not.......look at the only 2 fights that had shared PPV and that's Lewis vs Tyson and mayweather vs pacquaio....that's it and you can plaster it all over the porter Thurman fight it won't add any more numbers to it than it already will have ....it's the same boxing audience.....the problem is the networks just won't work together and that's not gonna change till the fighters and there managers make it a fight by fight basis and they make a stipulation that they fight on a channel who gives the best rewards....trapping a fighter to an exclusive network ..HBO are guilty of this and so is PBC and showtime....they won't share the pie and if they don't get all the pie then then there's no pie made.... It's no different all through the divisions rival networks mean no unifications ..

This is a good point hbo and showtime won't together work unless it's a mega fight.




It has to be a fight that crosses over to the general public.


Tyson/lewis and may/Pac were those.

[Teetotaler]

Why would HBO be entrusted with the responsibility of staging this PPV? They weren't even able to secure 100K PPV buys for Golovkin's last fight, their golden goose.

Look at the top 5 PPVs of all-time:
1) Mayweather/Pacquiao SHO/HBO
2) Mayweather/De La Hoya HBO
3) Mayweather/Canelo SHO
4) Holyfield/Tyson II SHO
5) Lewis/Tyson HBO/SHO

Showtime has been involved in 4 of the 5 highest selling PPVs of all-time. HBO has been involved in 3. Showtime knows how to sell a fight as well as either network. HBO shouldn't act as a roadblock for this fight. If HBO cares about the sport, they would do anything possible to make this fight. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like that is going to happen.

lmao danm and i thought you were a non biased poster. Those fights would have sold well on any network! You act like people really say "oh yeah that fights gonna be the ****! And its on showtime bro, we definitely gotta see it" or "hell yeah, showtime really know how to hype up a fight" . People dont give a **** about the network as long as the fight is interesting enough. Look at the Thurman/porter fight. Nobody gives a fu ck its on CBS as long as its getting made

[The plunger man]

lmao danm and i thought you were a non biased poster. Those fights would have sold well on any network! You act like people really say "oh yeah that fights gonna be the ****! And its on showtime bro, we definitely gotta see it" or "hell yeah, showtime really know how to hype up a fight" . People dont give a **** about the network as long as the fight is interesting enough. Look at the Thurman/porter fight. Nobody gives a fu ck its on CBS as long as its getting made

exactly ...this pigeon has a brain like a pigeon....I prefer HBO shows to showtime but if the fight is only available on showtime then I watch showtime....they have no idea how this fight is divided up in the end....if u get two networks aiming at the same market then the profit drops because it's the same amount of people that will buy it...it doesn't double there are two networks showing.....it might add a few thousand extra but nothing nothing to change the profit......how can two networks work together on an audience of 250k PPV ...it is not that kind of boxing event.....it will lose money ...the way I see is showtime have hardly promoted Stevenson in his time since he has been on haymons stable and they hardly are shouting for him......so why worry about them.....showtime are nowhere near the depth of quality of HBO ,..time for Stevenson to earn his big payday of 4 or 5 million and retire a made man and if HBO are gonna offer that then he is a fool for turning it down......

[tiliheels]

This is a good point hbo and showtime won't together work unless it's a mega fight.




It has to be a fight that crosses over to the general public.


Tyson/lewis and may/Pac were those.

it is bc they are greedy..working together means they split the bill to pay the ppv provider..it means teh split the tv promo cost...and it means the reach out to more ppl..
saving money is making money!
showtime isnt even asking for 50% that i know of so that makes hbo look even worse