Should Manny Still Be Placed Above Floyd On The ATG List?

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  • Rath
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    #191
    Originally posted by BlackSoul
    at 135 who did pacquiao fight to CLEAN OUT the div?
    at 140 who did pacquaio fight to CLEAN OUT the div?
    at 147 who did pacquiao fight to CLEAN OUT the div?
    if he fought to clean up the division, he won't get that 8 division world champion

    genius floyd fan and his logic

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      #192
      Originally posted by Szef
      Oh, so now you to have clean out a division to be considered an ATG?

      You keep moving the goal post and deflecting the topic so it could suit your agenda.

      Let's forget who Pacquiao have fought and beaten, let's also forget the fact that he started at Minimumweight and fought his way all the way up to 154.

      According to BlackSoul's standandards, you can't fight the same fighters more than one time to be an ATG, and when someone exposes how ******ed those standards are, he comes up with new ones

      Get lost, you fuckin simpleton. Learn about the sport.

      he turned pro at 16...how much did you weigh at 16 in comparison to your late 20s.....doesnt help he turned pro to support his family, was impoverished and not eating right


      notice how when he started making money and his body matured his weight went up...after he won the title at 112 and lost it he skipped 115 and 118 altogether....he had better living conditions etc.


      He does have a point...Manny hasnt come close to cleaning out any division

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        #193
        Originally posted by therealpugilist
        besides Manny... Bradley hasnt fought any legit welterweights...bunch of guys from lower weights and unranked like Rios, Provodnikov and Jessie Vargas..Marquez has what 1 win above 140 and that was ko6.....

        Top Rank sucks...how long did they think fans was going to let Manny not fighting any of the other welterweights who matter ride???


        Cant have a pass for everything

        Oh yea amanda finesse...looked her up, she has that natural beauty, liked her picks with no make up...those tigobitties doe...nothing like that mocha mahogany skin tone...smoother than butter
        gyeah mane Amanda Finesse is my prototype of sista, me bein' from the dirty i like my sistas with some meat on her bones but she is a d-i-m-e in my eyes i aint a cat that likes makeup or weave or no other **** i like my womben napptural and her skin is A1 mane she got a skin tone like me.

        and on da real tho i wish we didnt have these greedy ass promoters and networks that wanna keep $ in house and certain fighters exclusively signed to them and can match them up to maximize their own profit but damn i wish Bud Crawford could fight ALL the opponents he is my fav fighter right now currently speakin' he's like a mixture of hearns and sugar ray leonard with the confidence of a roy jones boxing mind like b hop that boy is the truth mane its sad we got these gobbige ass matchups tho pacquaio did good to AVOID Bud bc Bud would MADE HIM RETIRE

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        • Rath
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          #194
          Originally posted by therealpugilist
          he turned pro at 16...how much did you weigh at 16 in comparison to your late 20s.....doesnt help he turned pro to support his family, was impoverished and not eating right


          notice how when he started making money and his body matured his weight went up...after he won the title at 112 and lost it he skipped 115 and 118 altogether....he had better living conditions etc.


          He does have a point...Manny hasnt come close to cleaning out any division
          Pac did not clean out divisions yet still end up with 8 division title and a fighter of the decade award.

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            #195
            Originally posted by Rath
            if he fought to clean up the division, he won't get that 8 division world champion

            genius floyd fan and his logic
            im not a floyd fan

            but you're a pacKtard tho

            obviously you havent seen my posts regarding mayweather so you're still clueless i guess since im black then i must automatically like floyd ain'a?
            mayweather IS the BEST of THIS generation, whether you like it or not.

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              #196
              Originally posted by therealpugilist
              he turned pro at 16...how much did you weigh at 16 in comparison to your late 20s.....doesnt help he turned pro to support his family, was impoverished and not eating right


              notice how when he started making money and his body matured his weight went up...after he won the title at 112 and lost it he skipped 115 and 118 altogether....he had better living conditions etc.


              He does have a point...Manny hasnt come close to cleaning out any division
              if i could give you more green k than i already have you would have it for this post right chea mane

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              • Rath
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                #197
                Originally posted by BlackSoul
                and bradleys not a true 147lber either he came up from 140 after he damn near cleaned out 140 besides not fighting amir khan at the time to pursue the pacquiao fight
                and hatton is a true 147lber when floyd fought him?

                and marquez is a true 147lber when floyd fough him?

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                • Rath
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                  #198
                  Originally posted by BlackSoul
                  im not a floyd fan

                  but you're a pacKtard tho

                  obviously you havent seen my posts regarding mayweather so you're still clueless i guess since im black then i must automatically like floyd ain'a?
                  mayweather IS the BEST of THIS generation, whether you like it or not.
                  for what did i give you green for?

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                    #199
                    Originally posted by Rath
                    Pac did not clean out divisions yet still end up with 8 division title and a fighter of the decade award.
                    There are 4 "world champions" in every division these days. One for the WBC, one for the IBF, one for the WBO, and one for the WBA (these goons actually have more if you count their regular champions and interim champions.)

                    So it's very possible to pick up belts from the weaker champions in each weight class without ever cleaning out any division.

                    That's how Pacquiao picked up a lightweight title for example. By beating David Diaz.
                    Last edited by ShoulderRoll; 02-02-2016, 11:25 AM.

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                      #200
                      Originally posted by Rath
                      and hatton is a true 147lber when floyd fought him?

                      and marquez is a true 147lber when floyd fough him?
                      nope not at all but one was undefeated

                      and marquez beat the **** out of pacquiao all 4 fights and skruggled with mayweather thats where the 3 way theory comes into play tho we CANNOT rely on it as fact in THIS instance we can to determine legacy

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