Should Manny Still Be Placed Above Floyd On The ATG List?

[ironmt]

For a start Floyd did not force JMM up 3 weight classes , JMM had 2 big wins at 140 and called Floyd out who had been out of the ring for nearly 2 years and JMM was at the time NO 2 rated P4P in the world .

JMM fight night weight for his 2 JWW wins was 144 , he was 149 on the night fighting Floyd and was 150 on the night KOing Manny .

JMM went life and death with Manny 4 times and Juan in the end KOed him out cold , Floyd schooled JMM like he didnt belong in the same ring with him , and you never once heard JMM or Nacho wanting a rematch with Floyd , both have said he cant be beat , Nacho even said you need a bat and Floyd is from another universe .

How the fck can a guy thats been beat a number of times and was beat by Floyd be held higher and Floyd beat better versions of Oscar Cotto and Mosley 3 of Mannys biggest rated wins .

You talk about double standards and being objective yet you miss out the crucial points in your argument and break both your own rules .

Frazier beat Ali, who Is held higher? Hearns beat Duran, who Is held higher? Holyfield beat Tyson, who Is held higher? Rahman beat Lewis, who Is held higher? That doesn't mean a thing. It Is about career accomplishments. Didn't you say In a previous post that a fighter cannot be defined by one performance? How exactly was an older Cotto a better win for Floyd than the younger version that Pacquiao destroyed?

[Reloaded]

Frazier beat Ali, who Is held higher? Hearns beat Duran, who Is held higher? Holyfield beat Tyson, who Is held higher? Rahman beat Lewis, who Is held higher? That doesn't mean a thing. It Is about career accomplishments. Didn't you say In a previous post that a fighter cannot be defined by one performance? How exactly was an older Cotto a better win for Floyd than the younger version that Pacquiao destroyed?

Yes Cotto at 154 is much better than a drained Cotto at a CW 145 , Manny ducked him twice unless Cotto accepted a CW that would drain him , calling him out when he held the 154 title and insisting on 150 is BS with a guy you beat already if that dont tell weight is crucial I guess nothing will , Floyd fought and beat the Cotto Manny refused to fight .

Career accomplishments when you weigh up " everything from all angles " puts Floyd in a class on his own , when somebody uses Lewis Rahman in reference to Manny Floyd I know you dont understand boxing .

[SergioMartinez]

Frazier beat Ali, who Is held higher? Hearns beat Duran, who Is held higher? Holyfield beat Tyson, who Is held higher? Rahman beat Lewis, who Is held higher? That doesn't mean a thing. It Is about career accomplishments. Didn't you say In a previous post that a fighter cannot be defined by one performance? How exactly was an older Cotto a better win for Floyd than the younger version that Pacquiao destroyed?

If your hinting that Tyson is held higher in ATG status, than
I think to anyone who knows boxing.

Holyfield is held higher.

He has a much better resume than Tyson. Won 2 fights over Tyson.

Tyson has a BIGGER name, but better resume Holyfield.

[ironmt]

Yes Cotto at 154 is much better than a drained Cotto at a CW 145 , Manny ducked him twice unless Cotto accepted a CW that would drain him , calling him out when he held the 154 title and insisting on 150 is BS with a guy you beat already if that dont tell weight is crucial I guess nothing will , Floyd fought and beat the Cotto Manny refused to fight .

Career accomplishments when you weigh up " everything from all angles " puts Floyd in a class on his own , when somebody uses Lewis Rahman in reference to Manny Floyd I know you dont understand boxing .

I think I have proven my point. You made yourself look completely foolish with your comment of "How the fck can a guy thats been beat a number of times and was beat by Floyd be held higher"

Try following the sport Instead of sitting on the forum talking nonsense. It happens all the time and the examples I provided to you prove that. Speaking of catch weights, didn't Floyd fight Canelo at a catch weight? The same Canelo whom you said In an earlier post was one of Floyd's best wins.

[hugh grant]

Yes Cotto at 154 is much better than a drained Cotto at a CW 145 ,

PAC beat hatton at his best weight. Hatton struggled with every 147 fight. PAC stopped hatton at his best weight in 2 rounds.
Floyd couldn't stop any version of hatton in 2 roundsIf hatton fought Floyd now without training Floyd still won't stop him in 2 rounds

[Jay Volcano]

Mayweather is just a better boxer than Pacquiao. Simple!

[ironmt]

If your hinting that Tyson is held higher in ATG status, than
I think to anyone who knows boxing.

Holyfield is held higher.

He has a much better resume than Tyson. Won 2 fights over Tyson.

Tyson has a BIGGER name, but better resume Holyfield.

I agree with you although I would be willing to bet that just as many people have Tyson higher on there ATG list.

[Larry the boss]

All i know is GGG beats Khan,Floyd and Manny 1 at a time in under 3 rounds and leaves the arena and goes to your local club and ****s your wife....

[BM dnobagaV]

I agree with you although I would be willing to bet that just as many people have Tyson higher on there ATG list.

Not a fair comparison because Evander's resume is light years ahead of Tyson's. Pacquiao & Floyd's are close to identical, give or take some.

[ironmt]

Not a fair comparison because Evander's resume is light years ahead of Tyson's. Pacquiao & Floyd's are close to identical, give or take some.

They are close, with Pacquiao's being slightly better due to Barrera and Morales.