Comments Thread For: BoxingScene.com's 2015 Fighter of the Year

[IMDAZED]

Maybe because he also lost to Marquez?

Maybe because he hasn't looked destructive in 5 years? Or hasn't knocked anyone out in 5 years? Has had close fights, been knocked down and hurt.

Maybe because Klitschko had barely been touched in that time, undefeated for 10 years, no wars, no knockdowns and no losses. Beat almost every contender in his division and held 4 belts.

That was three years ago. You said 2015. And you could argue he's always been losing to Marquez. Plus, it's not the first time he's been stopped either. Before Mayweather, he soundly defeated Bradley and Algieri, one arguably a pound for pounder.

[LacedUp]

We're going to act like the heavyweight division isn't basura now huh?

I've got no issues with anyone giving Fury the fighter of the year award, but trying to make Wlad out to be a better fighter than Manny is a joke.

Why is it a joke? Klitschko was a way more dominant fighter than Pacquiao when they fought. That's fact.

He was higher ranked than Pacquaio on most P4P lists as well.

[Johnwoo8686]

that's not the fact and opinion I was referring to

Wilder has the lineal title. WTF does that even mean dude? You're a Mayweather fanboy - no one else would sit here and discuss a man who won a belt off freaking Bermane Stiverne to big up a win.

Clearly you don't know **** about boxing lol. So do you now think Tyson Fury is the "undisputed" champ too? lol

[LacedUp]

That was three years ago. You said 2015. And you could argue he's always been losing to Marquez. Plus, it's not the first time he's been stopped either. Before Mayweather, he soundly defeated Bradley and Algieri, one arguably a pound for pounder.

Yeah because 2012 had an impact on how 2015 Pacquiao was? It's not that hard to understand.

[LacedUp]

It's as simple as that? According to who?

That's just crazy man. Klit looked way more shot and easy to beat than Pacquiao did. Not only that, but Pac had come off some impressive wins against better opposition, and had looked better than Klit in those too.

Klit lost that fight more than anyone won it. It was a tragic, awful, farce of a fight in what was surely among the very worst ever title fights in history. Fury looked amateurish and bad, but Klit was an embarrassment of a heavyweight champ frankly. There was no action, no clean punching, no clean fighting, a whole lot of scrappy mauling and wrestling, neither guy took the fight to the other and whatever skill both had was not evident at any point in the fight that night. Klit landed 52 total punches. Fifty two punches in a 12 round, unified heavyweight title fight. That's four punches per round. That is utterly abysmal.

However you look at it, Pac/Floyd was ten times the fight and they were ten times the fighters in comparison in every way, shape and form.

Yeah on fight night

Great logic there.

[LacedUp]

Clearly you don't know **** about boxing lol. So do you now think Tyson Fury is the "undisputed" camp too? lol

Right - But you do? I'd imagine most posters on this forum think I add more to this forum than you do.

In fact, I doubt anyone knows who the *** you are

Wilder isn't anything but a belt holder. Fury is THE champ, call it what you want. Wilder is a contender with a piece of metal around his waist, even if it's the most historically significant belt.

[LacedUp]

Fight happened five years too late for me.

Exactly my thoughts.

[tiliheels]

Yes he also lost to Bradley. Should have lost to Marquez twice.

He clearly was past his prime and regardless what any list says, bradley was never top 3-4 P4P. EVER

That's true. Pacquiao is a way more exciting fighter than klitschko. But he was never as dominant in any division.

so bradley wons 140lbs? beats all comers then goes to ww and beas marquez? u also said he beat manny and he didnt? but he's not p4p? yea that BS...
but even if he was top 10 p4p he still is a better win that anyone klit has ever faced

manny has bodies on his resume klit has just a list of ppl...
enough of him being a better win that manny..are u kidding me they put algieri in front of manny and he went down 6 times..khan got a draw
they put jennings in front of klit and the fight was hella close imo and he should been dq'd for holding..then the next fight jennings is a cakewalk..PLEASE STFU U TROLL

[IMDAZED]

Yeah because 2012 had an impact on how 2015 Pacquiao was? It's not that hard to understand.

Right but I wouldn't put Fury in the Mayweather/Marquez category. Those are the only two people to defeat him since. I think the Pacquiao we've seen over the past year is far more formidable than the Klitschko we saw over that time. I do believe that is going to change over the next year.

[LacedUp]

so bradley wons 140lbs? beats all comers then goes to ww and beas marquez? u also said he beat manny and he didnt? but he's not p4p? yea that BS...
but even if he was top 10 p4p he still is a better win that anyone klit has ever faced

manny has bodies on his resume klit has just a list of ppl...
enough of him being a better win that manny..are u kidding me they put algieri in front of manny and he went down 6 times..khan got a draw
they put jennings in front of klit and the fight was hella close imo and he should been dq'd for holding..then the next fight jennings is a cakewalk..PLEASE STFU U TROLL

Which all comers at 140? Khan? Garcia? Ortiz? Matthysse? Maidana? I must have missed those.

Bradley was a good fighter at 140 but he did not clean out or anything like that. And yes he beat Marquez, great win. And Pacquiao did beat him twice in my opinion, but he didn't look great in either performance really.

Why are we discussing who is the greater fighter of Pacquiao and Klitschko? I have said multiple times in this thread that Pacquiao is greater. By far.

But the version each fought, Klitschko was at a better stage in his career than Pacquiao and Fury was given a WAY smaller chance to beat his man than Mayweather was.