How long will Deontay Wilder avoid the top heavyweights?

[about.thousands]

By demanding a second voluntary, Wilder avoided a Povetkin fight in late August through October.

There was never a fight talked about for August or October. Where are you getting this from? As a matter of fact Povetkin said in July that he might just sit out until negotiation period starts in October.

http://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-anticipates-wilder-vs-povetkin-early-2016--93475

So Povetkin, to stay active, fought on Nov 4.

After Povetkin won on Nov 4 and seeing Sasha was cut and would need until February or March to heal, Wilder saw an opportunity to avoid Povetkin again and announced he wanted another voluntary in January.

Again that's not true. Povetkin's team told the WBC he wouldn't be ready for January on the day of the Wach fight, before he fought Wach. So the cut wasn't an issue. That's when the WBC allowed Wilder another voluntary. They wouldn't have allowed him a voluntary if Povetkin hadn't told them beforehand he wouldn't be ready in January.

http://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-wilders-voluntary-defense-approved-1-16--97734

If Wilder hadn't demanded the second voluntary in September, he could have fought Povetkin at that time. There was no reason to delay fighting Povetkin, other than Deontay's cowardice.

The timetable had always been for negotiations in October, fight in January. They were never going to fight in October. Povetkin knew that in June. Where you keep coming up with the idea that a fight was going to take place in October? And how does a Wilder fight in September delay a fight in January?

http://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-povetkin-ordered-negotiate-october--92180

[BWC]

Yawn. He will fight Sasha in April/May. Settle the **** down and stop being an arseclown

[sicko]

Since none of them are with Top Rank and neither has Exclusive HBO Deals I don't think (Maybe Ortiz does not really sure), he can't avoid them nor should he be allowed to do so. WBC need to do their job and not just take big Fees to allow him to do what he wants to do

Artur Szpilka is a Solid, Young and Hungry Opponent, I have no problem with that fight.

[The Hammer]

There was never a fight talked about for August or October. Where are you getting this from? As a matter of fact Povetkin said in July that he might just sit out until negotiation period starts in October.

Wilder refused to negotiate, claiming Povetkin was on PEDs.

http://www.boxingscene.com/promoter-wilder-povetkin-take-place-america--91434

http://www.boxingscene.com/team-povetkin-ready-huge-deontay-wilder-purse-bid--94962

"The negotiations are very difficult. In my opinion, they want to avoid this fight and sometimes we don't even know what they mean. So we will try to buy it," Ryabinski said.


Wilder was afraid:

http://www.boxingscene.com/povetkins-coach-wilders-ped-rant-shows-weakness--91732

“Surely, I would have never anticipated these types of rants from Wilder," said Kirpa to R-Sport. “It clearly says something about his weakness. I don’t really care much about what he says – he can say whatever he wants. Real talking is done in the ring. But saying such things won't do Wilder any favors."

Povetkin was willing and ready to fight Wilder after Wilder-Povetkin, and but Wilder took a SECOND voluntary against Duhaupas, and only THEN did Povetkin change his mind and took a stay-busy fight, rather than remain inactive until 2016 waiting for Wilder.

http://www.fightsaga.com/news/item/5833-Alexander-Povetkin-on-steroids-He-s-willing-to-be-tested

[about.thousands]

Wilder refused to negotiate, claiming Povetkin was on PEDs.

http://www.boxingscene.com/promoter-wilder-povetkin-take-place-america--91434

http://www.boxingscene.com/team-povetkin-ready-huge-deontay-wilder-purse-bid--94962

"The negotiations are very difficult. In my opinion, they want to avoid this fight and sometimes we don't even know what they mean. So we will try to buy it," Ryabinski said.

This was the only quote from Wilder in the first link you posted

“He’s on some kind of steroids. But you know, that’s just my opinion. It’s not going to affect me when it’s time to fight and I’m looking forward (to fighting Povetkin). That’s how I feel. That could be the reason why (he dropped Perez so quickly). but we’re not taking anything from him and I can’t wait to be able to put my hands on him.”

In the second link you posted claiming they refused to negotiate you left out an important part. They hadn't even started negotiations.

"In October we have to start negotiations. However, I have assurances from the WBC that after his voluntary defense in September, Wilder will no longer be able to [have voluntaries] and has to defend against Povetkin."

Wilder was afraid:

http://www.boxingscene.com/povetkins-coach-wilders-ped-rant-shows-weakness--91732

“Surely, I would have never anticipated these types of rants from Wilder," said Kirpa to R-Sport. “It clearly says something about his weakness. I don’t really care much about what he says – he can say whatever he wants. Real talking is done in the ring. But saying such things won't do Wilder any favors."

Povetkin was willing and ready to fight Wilder after Wilder-Povetkin, and but Wilder took a SECOND voluntary against Duhaupas, and only THEN did Povetkin change his mind and took a stay-busy fight, rather than remain inactive until 2016 waiting for Wilder.

http://www.fightsaga.com/news/item/5...g-to-be-tested

If that's true why did Povetkin say, back in July, he was probably going to take break and sit out until October?

http://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-anticipates-wilder-vs-povetkin-early-2016--93475

That's just like Povetkin's team telling the WBC they won't be ready until April or May but coming back two week later, after the WBC has already granted Wilder the Jan. voluntary, and saying they're ready for Wilder now.

http://www.boxingscene.com/povetkins-coach-were-ready-deontay-wilder-now--98238

Or five days after telling the WBC they won't be ready for Wilder in January they come out and claim Wilder is ducking Povetkin

http://www.boxingscene.com/povetkins-coach-were-ready-deontay-wilder-now--98238

You don't see the pattern with these people?

[SUBZER0ED]

And if Wilder beats Povetkin?

If Wilder beats Povetkin, then he will get props for that & only that, until he gets another notable win. But that's a big IF....He's overrated & 38th ranked Duhaupas gave him a hard time.

[The Hammer]

If that's true why did Povetkin say, back in July, he was probably going to take break and sit out until October?

Because Wilder refused to negotiate until forced to by the WBC, and the WBC said negotiations have to begin in October.

When Wilder wins in January, he'll not want to fight Povetkin for many, many months, in hopes that Povetkin will take another fight rather than sit out.

Then, he can use that as an excuse to have yet another voluntary, or a unification with Martin/Glazkov, neither of who are bona fide top HWs.

Wach, Perez (Ring top ten at the time), and Takam (ring top 10 at the time, and until today's update) are better than Molina (not top 30), Duhaupas (not top 30) and Szpilka (not top 15, KOed by Jennings), although Povetkin isn't the world "champion". It's obvious who the coward is.

[billeau2]

If Wilder beats Povetkin, then he will get props for that & only that, until he gets another notable win. But that's a big IF....He's overrated & 38th ranked Duhaupas gave him a hard time.

That is indeed a big "if."

[Eff Pandas]

A title don't mean what it used to mean guys. No one thinks or should think Wilder is a champion really lol. He's a top contender who just so happens to own a big green belt who's fighting the caliber of guy a top contender fights.

There is lil debate his record on the road to getting that big green belt was manufactured, but since Bermane he's fought respectable competition. It sounds like the fight with Povetkin will be coming soon so that will be his biggest test & answer some questions as to if he can earn a shot THE champion Fury.

[about.thousands]

Because Wilder refused to negotiate until forced to by the WBC, and the WBC said negotiations have to begin in October.

Because Povetkin was the mandatory. There is always a negotiating period set by sanctioning bodies for the mandatories. The WBC announced negotiating period three weeks after Povetkin's fight with Perez.

When Wilder wins in January, he'll not want to fight Povetkin for many, many months, in hopes that Povetkin will take another fight rather than sit out.

Then, he can use that as an excuse to have yet another voluntary, or a unification with Martin/Glazkov, neither of who are bona fide top HWs

Now you're using personal opinions and assumptions to make your point. It just shows like I said from the beginning. Your personal feelings are getting in the way of the facts. The new negotiation period begins after Wilder's fight in January. Povetkin told the WBC he'll be ready in April or May. Let's hope Povetkin doesn't schedule a fight in March.