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  • #31
    Originally posted by Rip Chudd View Post
    Ok so post links or sources for this, cause if not it's all speculation.
    The link that I quoted is proof.

    The guy says that Povetkin announced his fight, then Wilder announced his fight with Duhapes a week or two later.

    This is merely spin.

    Wilder's voluntary defense had been announced well before. It isn't speculation. It's what happened.

    Povetkin had intended to wait for his shot with Wilder.

    Wilder's voluntary defense was then announced.

    The announcement of the actual opponent took quite a while.

    Between the announcement of the voluntary defense and the late announcement of the opponent, on about a months notice (an opponent no one had ever heard of), Povetkin's fight with Wach was announced.

    So the guy is simply spin doctoring.

    Dahupes didn't even get a proper camp.

    He initial said he'd go train in England, and ultimately just trained in France.

    Gotta wonder about the sparring quality for heavyweights over there.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Virgil Caine View Post
      The champion has up to a year to fight a mandatory?

      That's a new one for me.

      I'm pretty sure you just completely made that up.
      All WBC champions shall make at least one (1)
      mandatory defense per year, unless an exception is granted by the WBC in its sole

      discretion. A champion may be required to make more than one mandatory defense per
      year, if the WBC has designated more than one mandatory challenger for any reason. No
      bout shall be considered a mandatory defense unless expressly approved as mandatory by
      the WBC, and made exclusively against an official mandatory challenger designated by the
      WBC. A challenger who wins the title shall automatically inherit the mandatory defense
      obligations of the champion he defeated, unless the WBC in its sole discretion otherwise
      directs.


      http://wbcboxing.com/wbceng/Rules/WB...anuary2014.pdf

      Here's another one to show that Wilder is trying to follow the rules

      a WBC champion should strive to defend the title in mandatory or
      voluntary defenses at least three (3) times a year
      , unless a written exception or extension is
      granted by the WBC in its sole discretion. Therefore, a WBC champion should strive to
      defend his title at least every one hundred twenty (120) days
      unless otherwise permitted by
      the WBC in its sole discretion. Upon winning a title, a WBC champion must defend the
      title within 90 to 120 days or as otherwise ordered by the WBC, unless otherwise ordered or
      permitted by the WBC in its sole discretion.

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      • #33
        managers, promoters aside...All of these guys have so many achilles heels. They just don't seem to improve with the exeption of Fury who really has modified his mobility.

        Wilder is still a one trick poney and whether he knows it or not, people who want to make money off of fights know that the first guy that can avoid his right will make life difficult for him. I think that Dylan Whyte, much less Povatkin take Wilder to the woodshed.

        Ortiz reminds me in certain respects of brewster...hear me out in this one! Like Brewster when he was good, Ortiz can punch very well, and puts punches together well, but he does not have the ability to cut the ring off against one of these guys like Povatin who can punch in bunches and have some defensive skills. Brewster lost fights to Eatern Euro guys who could just avoid him better than Golata for example.

        Nobody really wants to push Joahua yet, probably because they know that some big strong guys who can punch wind up like David Price. Joshua did a great job against Dillon though...but he is still somewhat unknown.

        The point is all these guys are such, that nobody who depends upon them to take on all commers, can say "my fighter is well rounded, practiced and ready. So they try to feed them guys who can give them experience...Does anyone think Wilder can really get past Povatkin? Seriously? and i don't are for Povatkin at all.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Beercules View Post
          LOL ****ing briggs never stops making me laugh

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Virgil Caine View Post
            Povetkin wanted the fight in Sept/Oct, actually.

            He'd been on the shelf a while, and opted to take a fight, like two weeks after Wilder's fight, when Wilder opted to fight another bum.

            So what if he isn't ready for a January fight. Maybe he was injured in the fight and needs a little time to heal.

            In good faith negotiations, they could have made a deal. But Wilder went for a 3rd optional defense. They are just milking it.

            This puts Povetkin back on the shelf. But the WBC went along with it, for some reason.

            Wilder can't run forever.

            Unless Spilka deals with him, which he actually might.
            Wilder was granted another voluntary after Povetkin told the WBC he wouldn't be ready for the January fight. He told them that before his fight with Wach. Povetkin was guaranteed a fight with Wilder in January and instead of scheduling his fight in September with Wach he chose to schedule it in November, past the negotiating period. Why would he do that?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Freedom. View Post
              No, Wilder's second voluntary against Duhaupas delayed the fight with Povetkin.

              Wilder was afraid after seeing Povetkin KO Perez, and started making unfounded accusations about Povetkin being on PEDs. Then he petitioned for a SECOND voluntary after Molina.

              Povetkin and his promoter wanted the fight in August, September or October. But the de****able Sulaiman bowed to the whims of his master, Al Haymon, and said negotiations didn't need to start until October.

              Povetkin didn't "choose" to fight on the date Nov 4, he would have preferred to fight sooner, that choice was made for him by his promoter and the availability of a large venue and the availability of other boxers on the card for the major boxing event.

              No good reason why Wilder can't fight Povetkin in March or April, except he's afraid and

              I remember when Povetkin-Wach was announced for Nov 4, I thought "Oh no, Wilder will use this as an excuse to avoid Povetkin longer and demand another voluntary in January" And sure enough, he did.
              Explain to me how a Wilder fight in September delay a fight in January? There was never going to be a Wilder/Povetkin fight in Sept or October. Povetkin was made aware of that a week after he beat Perez. The fight was always scheduled for January

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              • #37
                If Wilder fights Pove and wins he will not get credit anyway. They will put another person that he hasn't fought or assumed that he ducked

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by about.thousands View Post
                  Explain to me how a Wilder fight in September delay a fight in January?
                  By demanding a second voluntary, Wilder avoided a Povetkin fight in late August through October.

                  So Povetkin, to stay active, fought on Nov 4.

                  After Povetkin won on Nov 4 and seeing Sasha was cut and would need until February or March to heal, Wilder saw an opportunity to avoid Povetkin again and announced he wanted another voluntary in January.

                  If Wilder hadn't demanded the second voluntary in September, he could have fought Povetkin at that time. There was no reason to delay fighting Povetkin, other than Deontay's cowardice.
                  Last edited by The Hammer; 12-23-2015, 04:07 PM.

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                  • #39
                    Ol' chicken legs Wilder will only be able to avoid top shelf HW's for a little while longer. Soon, Haymon will have to match him up with a mandatory or he'll be stripped. Bogus scheduling won't save him, & lucky breaks will run out. Your time is coming Wilder & then we will hear of you no more.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by SUBZER0ED View Post
                      Ol' chicken legs Wilder will only be able to avoid top shelf HW's for a little while longer. Soon, Haymon will have to match him up with a mandatory or he'll be stripped. Bogus scheduling won't save him, & lucky breaks will run out. Your time is coming Wilder & then we will hear of you no more.
                      And if Wilder beats Povetkin?

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