Comments Thread For: Jacobs: I Don’t Fear Golovkin, I Just Want Fair Money

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  • Fetta
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    #191
    Originally posted by OnePunch
    when you have 20 years in the industry, yeah, you know the numbers
    Cool. So what was your role for this fight?

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    • OnePunch
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      #192
      Originally posted by joseph5620
      Your 20 years are not credible.
      right, i've only promoted, or co-promoted shows on ESPN, Showtime, HBO, and HBO PPV. Clearly I have no idea about industry standards.

      what are your credentials in the industry again? I seem to have forgotten.....

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        #193
        Originally posted by OnePunch
        when GGG was looking at 168 bouts, Ward was in witness protection. It wasnt until Lemieux got signed that Ward stuck his head up and saw the coast was clear.


        but but but next year doe
        Make a fight with a boxer inactive with a contract dispute. Yeah right LOL


        When inactive fighter returns from dispute "164 doe" "Not a draw doe" Direct quote: "Ward too much for me doe"

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          #194
          Originally posted by OnePunch
          right, i've only promoted, or co-promoted shows on ESPN, Showtime, HBO, and HBO PPV. Clearly I have no idea about industry standards.

          what are your credentials in the industry again? I seem to have forgotten.....
          Did you promote Golovkin? Did you get a cut from his last fight? I seem to have forgotten. Or did you start a new promotional company I'm unaware of? One slap productions? Was that it?

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          • OnePunch
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            #195
            Originally posted by joseph5620
            Did you promote Golovkin?
            why would I have to promote Golovkin to be able to analyze basic event revenue / costs?

            Revenue was disclosed by a publicly traded company, and projected costs are no mystery to anyone with any industry experience.

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            • OnePunch
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              #196
              Originally posted by joseph5620
              Did you promote Golovkin? Did you get a cut from his last fight? I seem to have forgotten. Or did you start a new promotional company I'm unaware of? One slap productions? Was that it?
              oh, how clever. You made a funny.

              Typical. When you have no clue what you are talking about, deflect with an insult.

              *yawn............

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                #197
                Originally posted by OnePunch
                why would I have to promote Golovkin to be able to analyze basic event revenue / costs?

                Revenue was disclosed by a publicly traded company, and projected costs are no mystery to anyone with any industry experience.
                Right and it was a disappointment. Trying to say otherwise is evidence that you have no credibility on the topic and that includes your "20 years."

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                  #198
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  I guess that why we needed him to fight Ward, to see if that was the case. The weight difference and the talent/skill difference would force GGG to utilize more skills than he needs to beat the string of huge underdogs he has defeated.

                  I would think his fans would want to see that more than another easy KO. No one is denying GGG's talent and skill, just want to see him use them against better comp.

                  The clowns know EXACTLY what would happen.

                  TBH, Golovkin would be nuts to get in the ring with Ward.

                  What I can't figure out, is why Mr 97k isn't cutting off one of his fingers to fight Canelo AND Cotto..... even Lara, just to shut the critics up.

                  It makes 0 sense, that this supposed killer, won't do whatever he has to do to get Canelo/Cotto in the ring with him.

                  Not only are most insiders questioning Golovkins resume/ability, but the best fighter on the planet publicly stated that Golovkin is all hype.

                  I can understand avoiding Ward, he is a bad boy and a stylistic nightmare.....

                  ..... but why avoid the little guys ?

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                    #199
                    Originally posted by Fetta
                    i dont think it made moeny and you do. The fact that we are having this debate shows it bombed but keep up the cool story...bro. Yay they made 1.5 cause from what ive read gate was 2mil. Oh and im so glad all the other fighters on the card fought for free. Trainers all free. They were just so glad to be a part of the ggg card.

                    AND IF YOU DONT KNOW ABOUT THE ESPINOZA THING THEN PLEASE NEVER MENTION THAT EXECUTIVES CAME OUT AND SAID ANYTHING
                    Promoters share and trainers share are paid by fighters from their purses.

                    I don't know if they made money or not and frankly I don't care but I severely doubt that the card in total was a losing proposition.

                    Even if in your hater fantasy world, HBO lost $1 million putting that PPV on, remember that's not even going to be a true loss because when HBO or SHO puts on regular cards, all the money spent on the fight is "lost" so to speak.

                    That is to say, they're not making anything back when they air a regular card on the network -- they're merely trying to provide exciting matchups to their subscribers so that the subscribers continue to subscribing to the channel.

                    Since the average Golovkin card costs HBO probably about $1 million minimum, a PPV that loses $1 million is a wash.

                    Don't you worry about HBO's pocketbook though, they're doing quite alright with Golovkin.

                    The fact that seemingly every 4th thread on this website involves him in some way, be it directly or indirectly, suggests they must be doing something right. I like Jacobs a lot but to even suggest that he's on the same level of TV or gate drawing power is ludicrous. The only reason his purses even come close to Golovkin's is because his manager is deliberately overpaying him (and everyone else) as part of a larger market stratagem to gain "league-like" control of the sport.

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                      #200
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      I guess that why we needed him to fight Ward, to see if that was the case. The weight difference and the talent/skill difference would force GGG to utilize more skills than he needs to beat the string of huge underdogs he has defeated.

                      I would think his fans would want to see that more than another easy KO. No one is denying GGG's talent and skill, just want to see him use them against better comp.
                      eh, imo Ward would be a hard fight to win not because GGG is bad but Ward will likely outpoint him. That fight to me always felt a little shady with some fans that wanted him to fight Ward because all they really wanted was Ward to school him so they could say see he was a bum, over hyped, never good!!!

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