2016 Rio Olympics Boxers to lookout for?

[HI-TECH Boxing]

It was a close competitive fight and I thought Roniel pushed the pace, out-threw and outlanded Rabbi even at the end of the second round Rabbi received a body shot and going into his corner fell on the chair. Rabbi and the Moroccan team trained in Cuba with the Cubans.

As far as me being a Cuban boxing fanatic, yes I am but does this mean I'm nuts, hell no. Robeisi Ranirez I thought lost against a Moroccan guy in Havana as he posed for 5 rounds and didn't do any work but they gave him the victory. I've seen Erislandy Savon get a gift decision against Kazahstan. I've seen Lara lose to Canelo.
Yasnier lost both fights against Lomachenko. He didn't lose to Arthur at the Pan-Am games, why do you think Arthur decided not to face him in the semi-finals at the Amercas championship? I didn't think the Russian beat him at all.

So yeah Cubans amateur wise have been the best in the business for decades. Pan AM games 10 medals, Worlds 6 or 7. I mean they got 4 golds, Russia is behind them with 2 golds. Kazahstan and Azerbeidjan 1 gold each. Cuba is head and shoulder above everybody else in amateur boxing and the only reason Cuban doesn't get more medals at these competitions is because they it's the World Championships and not the Cuban Boxing Championships. How are you gonna give the Azerbeidjani guy a victory over Roniel when he got torn up for 3 rounds. Is it not a fact that Azerbeidjan, Russia, Kazahstan and Russia invest the most money in the sport? So yeah I can recognize when a Cuban loses and when he's given a gift win like I showed you with examples but common man Ronniel losing and Yasnier losing at the pan Am at the Worlds. About the Andy Cruz fight it wasn't exactly a robbery, my bad. I thought the Belarus kid won the first round and from then on Andy won the last 2 and it was competitive. I can even see maybe Andy losing just cause it was competitive. I don't think Yasnier lost a round against Dunaytsev. I think he outclassed him. Yasnier lost the first round against Arthur I don't think he lost a round against Dunaytsev and I don't think Roniel lost a round agains tthe Azerbeidjani guy. The Azerbeidjani guy that beat Vetia at 54 deserved the win and it was a close competitive fight. Erislandy Savon deserved to lose as his heart shrinks when the competition gets harder.

I actually think it's the opposite. I thought Toledo beat Arthur clearly. Arthur held his own, but didn't do enough to win any round. The Pan-Am games took place in Canada though, it was obvious they were going to take a Gold and their best boxer took the Gold. Unfairly? Yes! Arthur wasn't a bad boxer though, just not at the level of Toledo.
That's something fighters will have to be careful of at the Olympic by the way. Brazil is the host nation so they will take some medals. Even if it's by way of robbery.
I just rewatched the Dunaytsev fight and it was close. Round one was clear for Dunaytsev. He walked Toledo into his shots and landed way more this round. No way Toledo won this round. Round 2 started with the same then Toledo finished off better. Round 2 could have gone either way. Round 3 started off competitively and then Toledo won the rest. Vitaly closed strong in the last ten seconds, but not enough to potentially steal it.
It was a close competitive fight.
Dunaytsev beat him to the punch several times and even when they exchanged combinations. Toledo did as well. As close as you can get imo.
But we'll have to agree to disagree.
I like both fighters and wish they would/could turn pro.

As far as Robeisi I like his style better than Andy Cruz but the last two fights of his in the Worlds he didn't look good. They said that there was a discipline issue and they took him off. Now he's back so let's see if he can regain his form. Beating Andy Cruz in Cuba doesn't guarantee him a spot on the national team. In Cuba it's different. Mario Kindeland used to lose against a guy from Santiago de Cuba nationally all the time yet he was the one representing Cuba.

That's interesting I didn't know that.
I hope Ramirez does well. If he regains his form he definitely has a better shot at taking Gold than Cruz. If Ramirez looks mediocre they are better off sending Cruz.

And while we're on that me calling all Cuban losses robberies. Selimov is one of the best technical fighters, he's an all timer in my opinion. Did you see him win against Conceisao from Brazil? I didn't. I thought Conceisao rightfully won against Lazaro Alvares in the Pan Am games.

And if it wasn't for the cut that Selimov suffered against Lazaro Alvarez in the finals Lazaro would've been robbed and he was outclassing Selimov. He made Selimov look like a sparring partner and thankfully he cut him cause had it been gone to the score cards poor Lazaro would've been robbed.

I haven't watched the fight since I watched it live, but I remember giving Selimov the win 2-1. It was a close fight, but I thought Selimov neutralized Conceicao's work and landed the cleaner punches.
Selimov's work goes unnoticed a lot of times. He's not as effective as he was when he was younger, but he still does very well.
I thought Selimov won round 1 against Lazaro by the way. He was starting to get outworked in round 2 and I think that cut really bothered him that's why he didn't neutralize Lazaro's work rate like he usually does.

I also don't think that Tony Yuca won his semifinal or the final yet he became the champ. Now that the point system is out I think there is even more corruption in amateurs boxing. Some of the scores were ridiculous.

Also let's say you win the first 2 rounds, why fight the third? How are you gonna catch up? Have you seen a comeback from 2-0 in the amateurs. I am yet to see one. It's like the ref agree to give the first 2 round to one fighter and to not look completely corrupt they won't give him the last one but he still won.

I think Tony Yoka was extremely lucky to get the Gold at Worlds.

If you lose the first two rounds, but win the third round 10-8, you can make the fight even. Meaning you get a 28-28 score.
I'm not sure if I like this scoring system as opposed to the last one, but at least this could prepare amateur boxers a little more for pro boxing.
Lomachenko outlanded Salido in their fight by over 20 punches, but still didn't get the decision. They favored Salido's dirty aggressiveness even though he wasn't effective with his attack.
This new system could at least make these fighters feel rushed and fight with more urgency.

Boxing is a corrupt sport! A lot of people complain about amateur boxing, but professional boxing is also very corrupt.

[John Locke]

Mamishzada is one to keep an eye on, I think he'll get at least bronze, he's probably the best talent we've got atm, not including Selimov who isn't really Azerbaijani, he's just representing us.

Baghirov is decent as well.

[NEETzsche]

the 10-point must system is useless in a three round fight. almost every single fight i watched in the world championships in october could have arguably gone either way. they should either change the scoring back to the old style or make it five two minute rounds per fight

apart from the british and irish fighters, i'll be rooting for yeleussinov and alimkhanuly in rio (although i think the latter hasn't qualified yet). i enjoy that kazakh style

[pesticid]

Mamishzada is one to keep an eye on, I think he'll get at least bronze, he's probably the best talent we've got atm, not including Selimov who isn't really Azerbaijani, he's just representing us.

Baghirov is decent as well.

Nah Baghirov went to the semifinals cause he got a gift in the quarterfinals, he was brutalized by Roniel Iglesias.

Abdulaev will be there and Mamishada who knocked out an Algerian in the semifinal I believe with a left hook in the 1st round I believe and then went on to defeat Vetia in the finals who is a tremendous talent himself. That's actually the only knockout I saw in the Worlds this year and I believe I watched close to 100 fights.

[pesticid]

the 10-point must system is useless in a three round fight. almost every single fight i watched in the world championships in october could have arguably gone either way. they should either change the scoring back to the old style or make it five two minute rounds per fight

apart from the british and irish fighters, i'll be rooting for yeleussinov and alimkhanuly in rio (although i think the latter hasn't qualified yet). i enjoy that kazakh style

Good idea! They should do that in deed. They had 4 by 2 , 5 by two is better and open scoring please! Some fighters think they are ahead and then at the end they realize the first 2 were given to the other fighter.

[John Locke]

Nah Baghirov went to the semifinals cause he got a gift in the quarterfinals, he was brutalized by Roniel Iglesias.

Abdulaev will be there and Mamishada who knocked out an Algerian in the semifinal I believe with a left hook in the 1st round I believe and then went on to defeat Vetia in the finals who is a tremendous talent himself. That's actually the only knockout I saw in the Worlds this year and I believe I watched close to 100 fights.

I think Iglesias won but he by no means brutalised Baghirov, it was a close fight. I think he's decent, don't see him winning a medal though. The Kazakh guy who beat him in the semis is very good, I can see him winning a medal.

Mamishzada is a big talent though, I'd love to see him win gold then turn pro, we haven't really had a top level pro before, so I'm eager for us to produce someone.

Medzhidov would make a good pro actually...

[pesticid]

I think Iglesias won but he by no means brutalised Baghirov, it was a close fight. I think he's decent, don't see him winning a medal though. The Kazakh guy who beat him in the semis is very good, I can see him winning a medal.

Mamishzada is a big talent though, I'd love to see him win gold then turn pro, we haven't really had a top level pro before, so I'm eager for us to produce someone.

Medzhidov would make a good pro actually...

Dude Bahirov vbs Igleasias was as wide of a fight as it could possibly get on an amateur level. Baghirov got his ass handed to him.

[John Locke]

Dude Bahirov vbs Igleasias was as wide of a fight as it could possibly get on an amateur level. Baghirov got his ass handed to him.

Definitely don't agree. I can't remember which rounds I gave to who but I had it 2-1 to Roniel. Baghirov reminds me of Khan a bit, he throws wild flurries without too much accuracy.

[New England]

Shakur has to win the Olympic trials and qualify first.
I'm excited for the trials especially for the Bantamweight division.
It's a three way fight imo. Francisco Martinez, Ruben Villa and Shakur Stevenson have an equal chance of winning the trials. Then they have to qualify so let's wait and see what happens before we start calling them Olympians.

Robeisy Ramirez is the one to look for in that division though. If he stays dedicated we could have another potential great in our hands. If he gets another Gold medal I hope they do everything they can to help him defect. He's about to be only 22 years old.

sometimes they cook those birth certificates, brih

[Dudley]

Cuba doesn't have a boxing program for the women. In other words there are no women from Cuba boxing at international or national level.

maybe it was colombian then, but it was the gold medal round in the Pan am games in Toronto

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