2016 Rio Olympics Boxers to lookout for?

[HI-TECH Boxing]

As far as Robeisi I like his style better than Andy Cruz but the last two fights of his in the Worlds he didn't look good. They said that there was a discipline issue and they took him off. Now he's back so let's see if he can regain his form. Beating Andy Cruz in Cuba doesn't guarantee him a spot on the national team. In Cuba it's different. Mario Kindeland used to lose against a guy from Santiago de Cuba nationally all the time yet he was the one representing Cuba.

It looks like Ramirez didn't even participate in the tournament I told you about. I'm not sure where his career goes from here. It's a shame. He was a really talented fighter.
I don't know the reasons why he didn't participate after them hyping him up to be there.
No Cuban boxers competed if I'm not mistaken though, so maybe it wasn't his fault.
Aren't Cuban nationals later this month? If so then we can see how he performs.
Cruz is not a bad fighter, but I much prefer Ramirez. Cruz has a good chance of medaling as well though.

sometimes they cook those birth certificates, brih

I heard of that before. Ramirez looks young though. I even remember him at the 2010 Youth Olympics and he didn't look so mature. If he is lying about his age it wouldn't be by that much.
If they turn pro it would only be hurting them anyway.

Rigondeaux on the other hand has looked old since he was in his early 20's lol.
Go watch some of his fights in the 2000 Olympics and 2001 World's he has looked old since those tournaments.
He was "only" 19 going on 20 at the 2000 Olympics.

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It looks like Ramirez didn't even participate in the tournament I told you about. I'm not sure where his career goes from here. It's a shame. He was a really talented fighter.
I don't know the reasons why he didn't participate after them hyping him up to be there.
No Cuban boxers competed if I'm not mistaken though, so maybe it wasn't his fault.
Aren't Cuban nationals later this month? If so then we can see how he performs.
Cruz is not a bad fighter, but I much prefer Ramirez. Cruz has a good chance of medaling as well though.



I heard of that before. Ramirez looks young though. I even remember him at the 2010 Youth Olympics and he didn't look so mature. If he is lying about his age it wouldn't be by that much.
If they turn pro it would only be hurting them anyway.

Rigondeaux on the other hand has looked old since he was in his early 20's lol.
Go watch some of his fights in the 2000 Olympics and 2001 World's he has looked old since those tournaments.
He was "only" 19 going on 20 at the 2000 Olympics.

The nationals were in Camaguay the end of Novemeber, I believe Nov. 25 or 26th. So I have no idea why Ramirez didn't participate.

[pesticid]

Well, I am confused now because I was in Santiago de Cuba 3 weeks ago and the Santiago Team was preparing for the nationals and they were supposed to be there like 10 days ago, I mean in Camaguay. Right now I am reading on the Web that the tournament will be b/w Dec 12-Dec 19 and there are going to be close to 200 boxers. I mean there are 15 provinces in Cuba. It doesn't say anything about Robeisy though.

I'll tell you smth once you're out of boxing for a bit it's a big ladder to climb back especially with the competition in Cuba. I've seen sparring sessions there of 1 boxer against 2 at the same time. These guys have conditioning like no other boxers that's why you never see them tired at championships I can't even last 1/3 of their training and I am in shape. Anyway the conditioning of all amateur boxing has improved dramatically, that's why there are rarely any knockouts in amateur boxing anymore. They are just so strong the boxers nowadays that even without headgear and in Cuba the training sessions are just insane so if Robeisy has been gone for a while and not training with the talent in the country and the hunger he's not guaranteed nothing, not even Andy Cruz is guaranteed a spot. If I hear about him I'll let you know.

[pesticid]

But like I said winning the Nationals is not a guarantee that you;ll be on the team. For example Joahnys Argilagos, the 18 year old kid that won gold at the Worlds a couple of months ago didn't even participate in last year's national cause he was only 17 and they started him in the World Series as soon as he turned 18, he actually lost to Velazquez who I think is the best boxer in this division, I don't even know what happened to him at the Worlds cause I thought he was going to get the gold, he's the best Mexican amateur fighter I've seen. I've seen him beat Veitia from Cuba as well, I mean if you beat Cubans like Veitia and Argilagos you're special. I gotta look him up on youtube and see what happened to him at the worlds.

PS - Velazquez # 1 seed lost in the 1st round against Ladon fair and square.

[HanzGruber]

Stevenson has not even qualified. He's probably not the favorite for the Olympic Trials either.
Ruben Villa beat Stevenson twice this year. 2-0 against Stevenson, yet I don't see anyone hyping him up. I wonder why, he's American as well.



Even if Stevenson wins the Olympic Trials he still has to qualify. Even if he qualifies he won't Medal in my opinion.

Shakur beat him yesterday https://twitter.com/usaboxing/status/674442640968908800

[AddiX]

This kid is from my gym and is in the Olympic trials, this is a KO from a few fights ago, he just won the gloves in buffalo. Comes from the same gym as Imam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvRhdenObbE&sns=em

[Eff Pandas]

The comedic stylings of Cam F Awesome (2-0 in the US Olympic Trials so far & meeting Derae Crane in the winners bracket finals next).

[Eff Pandas]

This kid is from my gym and is in the Olympic trials, this is a KO from a few fights ago, he just won the gloves in buffalo. Comes from the same gym as Imam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvRhdenObbE&sns=em

**** you're in upstate NY? Me too.

Nova took a L yesterday & is in the losers bracket now.

[HI-TECH Boxing]

Well, I am confused now because I was in Santiago de Cuba 3 weeks ago and the Santiago Team was preparing for the nationals and they were supposed to be there like 10 days ago, I mean in Camaguay. Right now I am reading on the Web that the tournament will be b/w Dec 12-Dec 19 and there are going to be close to 200 boxers. I mean there are 15 provinces in Cuba. It doesn't say anything about Robeisy though.

I'll tell you smth once you're out of boxing for a bit it's a big ladder to climb back especially with the competition in Cuba. I've seen sparring sessions there of 1 boxer against 2 at the same time. These guys have conditioning like no other boxers that's why you never see them tired at championships I can't even last 1/3 of their training and I am in shape. Anyway the conditioning of all amateur boxing has improved dramatically, that's why there are rarely any knockouts in amateur boxing anymore. They are just so strong the boxers nowadays that even without headgear and in Cuba the training sessions are just insane so if Robeisy has been gone for a while and not training with the talent in the country and the hunger he's not guaranteed nothing, not even Andy Cruz is guaranteed a spot. If I hear about him I'll let you know.

Isn't the Playa Giron tournament later this month? They should sent whoever is their best boxer to the Olympics. That would be either Cruz or Ramirez. Nobody else should go over them. Ramirez did fight in the WSB earlier this year (I think it was June?) and he looked good imo. I've also seen training footage of him in September. So we can only hope Ramirez has rededicated himself. He's too good to let his talent go to waste. Ramirez beat Lazaro Alvarez pretty cleanly and Alvarez is a Two Time World Amateur Championship Gold medalist at Lightweight (he also won one at Bantamweight). I google'd Ramirez's name and went to the news section and it said that he would participate in the tournament (Playa Giron). I wasn't able to go to the actual article for some reason though.
I really want to see Ramirez get back into form.

This is a really great group of Cuban boxers. I NEED to see some of these guys turn pro. They have styles better suited for professional boxing than Rigo and Lara do imo.
There are five Cuban boxers in particular that I want to see make that jump. Robeisy Ramirez (if he wins another Gold and gets back to good form), Lazaro Alvarez (volume puncher/offensive minded would make a great pro), Arlen Lopez, Yasniel Toledo and probably Erislandy Savon.
I'll be happy with just two of them. Mainly Ramirez and Alvarez, because of selfish reasons. I would love to see both of them against Lomachenko.

It'll be a shame if some of these guys never make the jump. Alvarez is a 3x World Championship, Olympic Bronze medalist and probably the favorite for the Gold next year. Conceicao and Selimov will be his two toughest challenges. I get the feeling they're going to do everything to give the Gold to Conceicao. Conceicao is a great boxer, but all I want is for them to keep it fair. If Selimov or Alvarez deserve the Gold over him then they should keep it like that. Alvarez will be 25 at the Olympics. Good age to turn pro. It may be now or never for him. If Alvarez has any intention of going pro I think he should do it shortly after the Olympics or it may become to late.

Ramirez is an Olympic champion and he has the talent to win another Gold in Rio. He's already defeated the current #1, Conlan. I think he has the ability to beat the other top guys there, if he is dedicated. We'll get a glimpse of his form if he competes in the Playa Giron. If he wins it's a great sign, because Andy Cruz is nothing to play with. Then they'll have to choose him and send him to the Americas Olympic Qualifying Event in April. I think he beats anyone from the Americas. The Playa Giron would actually be more difficult to win imo. Ramirez will only be 22 at the Olympics. Great age to make the jump.

Most of these Cuban boxers will have to try to defect soon, after the Olympics, if they even intent to go professional. Most of them are in their early to mid 20's, which are good ages to turn pro, but if they end up waiting too long it may become too late for them.
Cuban boxers do get treated poorly, but like I said, most of these guys have styles built for professional boxing. They're shouldn't be an excuse of promoters not wanting to promote them. Alvarez, Toledo, Ramirez, and Lopez are offensive minded boxers. They would killers in professional boxing.
They may run into problems of getting robbed against "more marketable" fighters, but I fear that for Lomachenko as well. Some people think Loma is getting everything handed to him, which is false, and I honestly fear the day he has to fight an Oscar Valdez or a Felix Verdejo as I think he may get done wrong (like robbed).

You rarely see guys with pedigrees like these turn pro. Something needs to change. Even fighters that can turn pro most of the times don't. I don't like when a prospect gets hyped up so highly then I think to myself: he's good but this guy, that is still an amateur, is even better.
I like amateur boxing, but I love professional boxing. I hope more and more of the best and accomplished amateur boxers start turning pro and hopefully at younger ages. It will be much more difficult for Cuban boxers obviously.
How do you feel? Would you like to see Cuban boxers turn pro or are you good with them staying amateur?
I know it's way more difficult for them, they have to sacrifice a whole ton. I just want the world to know about their talent. I also want Alvarez, Ramirez and Toledo to fight Lomachenko. Great fights those would be.
I apologize if some of the things I wrote don't make sense, I did it in a rush.

Shakur beat him yesterday https://twitter.com/usaboxing/status/674442640968908800

Yeah, I've been trying to keep track of the trials. They've made it extremely difficult to.
I don't think Stevenson medals at the Olympics. It's pretty competitive weight class. I don't see him beating the top dogs there.
If he wins the trials, which I think he will, I do think he will qualify to the Olympics. The Bantamweight division in the Americas qualifying event is weak, so all Stevenson has to do is avoid the Cuban and the Brazilian (two good fighters) before the Semifinal and he should make the Olympics.

[AddiX]

**** you're in upstate NY? Me too.

Nova took a L yesterday & is in the losers bracket now.

Yeah I'm from Albany, where upstate are you?

Damn, I didn't know Nova lost. Well, looks like he will be going pro soon, hopfully he makes better management decision than imam did.

That gyms style is better suited for pro anyway, but I feel bad for these guys who chase Olympic dreams and don't make it, they work hard for it, for years.