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Fury didn't win how we wanted him to

Yup. You couldn't make it up.


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[LacedUp]

which are his best wins?

and who did he lose to?

He beat Lucian Bute when he was ranked above Ward. People seem to forget that. Pascal was undefeated and went on to become a champion at LHW. Andre Dirrel was undefeated as I said and was a great talent. Same with Abraham who hasn't been schooled like he did vs Froch by Ward or anyone else since and has defended his belt God knows how many times.

I even forgot to mention Jermain Taylor as well.

Then beat Kessler when he was ranked #2 in the division (after Ward and Froch), and went on to beat the #5 and #4 guy in Groves.

Those are his best wins and his resume is better than Ward's who's clear best wins are Froch, Kessler and Abraham. After that, it's pretty grim.

Ward's resume simply isn't as strong as Froch's but please bring up the mighty Rodriguez and weight drained Dawson. Be my guest. Or Miranda right? Sakio Bika and whoever else random guys Ward fought that you will big up like monsters.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

He beat Lucian Bute when he was ranked above Ward. People seem to forget that. Pascal was undefeated and went on to become a champion at LHW. Andre Dirrel was undefeated as I said and was a great talent. Same with Abraham who hasn't been schooled like he did vs Froch by Ward or anyone else since and has defended his belt God knows how many times.

I even forgot to mention Jermain Taylor as well.

Then beat Kessler when he was ranked #2 in the division (after Ward and Froch), and went on to beat the #5 and #4 guy in Groves.

Those are his best wins and his resume is better than Ward's who's clear best wins are Froch, Kessler and Abraham. After that, it's pretty grim.

Ward's resume simply isn't as strong as Froch's but please bring up the mighty Rodriguez and weight drained Dawson. Be my guest. Or Miranda right? Sakio Bika and whoever else random guys Ward fought that you will big up like monsters.

Why are you getting into another Froch-Ward debate with that fat idiot?

It's literally all he does on this forum, hijacks threads and turns them into odes to the night that Ward outpointed Froch in a forgettable affair. He's been living off that for 4 years

[LacedUp]

Why are you getting into another Froch-Ward debate with that fat idiot?

It's literally all he does on this forum, hijacks threads and turns them into odes to the night that Ward outpointed Froch in a forgettable affair. He's been living off that for 4 years

You're right.

I'm better than that.

[LacedUp]

Why are you getting into another Froch-Ward debate with that fat idiot?

It's literally all he does on this forum, hijacks threads and turns them into odes to the night that Ward outpointed Froch in a forgettable affair. He's been living off that for 4 years

You're right.

I'm better than that.

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New England is boring as ****, needs some new banter.

[LoadedWraps]

Where were you all during the build up? The Master thread got very lonely for us true Fury fans at times.

"Wladimir gonna knock Fury out with the first right hand he lands doe"

Get used to it, fellow Furytards. Tyson Fury is now the face of boxing, the HW kingpin, the undisputed champion. Fans will come in droves, and rightfully so. We haven't seen entertainment like this since Ali.

[New England]

He beat Lucian Bute when he was ranked above Ward. People seem to forget that. Pascal was undefeated and went on to become a champion at LHW. Andre Dirrel was undefeated as I said and was a great talent. Same with Abraham who hasn't been schooled like he did vs Froch by Ward or anyone else since and has defended his belt God knows how many times.

I even forgot to mention Jermain Taylor as well.

Then beat Kessler when he was ranked #2 in the division (after Ward and Froch), and went on to beat the #5 and #4 guy in Groves.

Those are his best wins and his resume is better than Ward's who's clear best wins are Froch, Kessler and Abraham. After that, it's pretty grim.

Ward's resume simply isn't as strong as Froch's but please bring up the mighty Rodriguez and weight drained Dawson. Be my guest. Or Miranda right? Sakio Bika and whoever else random guys Ward fought that you will big up like monsters.

ward doesn't have a great resume, either, but it's better than froch, a guy who lost to the two best fighters he ever fought.


i've gone through froch's resume and explained why the wins are good, but not good enouhg to get you by on their volume when there was a fighter in your division who fought and beat you, and the other best fighter you fought.


people [usually brits] never talk about froch's losses, which are the two most important fights of his career.



as for lucian bute, which you are apparently calling his best win

shall i go through the career of lucian bute, and talk about the wins he doesn't have, or the fighters that beat him? or how little he did after the froch fight?

what has bute done? it looks like you're calling him froch's best win. it's either htat, or you're arguing that froch has such incredible depth of OK fighters that he's got a better resume than the guy who was actually at the top of the division because of wins over kessler and froch himself.

bute was overrated by people who didn't care for andre ward. i get it. he's not a likeable guy, or british, or an exciting fighter, so you have to build up boogeymen to try and detract from him. lucian bute was one such boogeyman.

if you want to call ward a duck after bute beats froch, then fine. he lost to froch. it became clear that he was the definition of a hype job. he beat up fringe guys at home with knockout his knockout power. he had done nothing before or since [he could arguably have a bad knockout loss to librado andrade in '08 on shobox.] that's the archetype of a hype job. for some reason brits seem to give bute credit proportionate to their hype, not the acutal merits of the fighters' resume or ability.


in short, you think a couple of extra "depth" fights eclipse wins over the guy who beat froch [kessler] and froch himself. if froch is such a great fighter, surely you're missing something when you say that a few "depth" wins get him over the hump against a guy who virtually shut him out.

sort out the depth, then. what are theese "depth" wins that put froch over the guy who was actually the best SMW on the planet, as oppose to the guy hwo needed injuries, kelly pavlik losing his mind, or ward being an idiot with joe goossen, to be the best?


froch was only the best SMW on the planet when ward stopped fighting! he f#cking retired when he came back! how the f#ck can you ignore that? he had no business sharing a ring with andre ward.



with a broken, hand, BTW. froch lost to ward when ward had badly broken bones in his left hand. he is left handed. carl froch is not nearly as good as the litle shireling make him out to be.


ward doesn't ahve a great resume, either, but it's a heck of a lot better than the guy who lost to him and mikkel kessler.

[New England]

New England is boring as ****, needs some new banter.

"NE knows ward had a better run than froch, and that british boxing fans have a tendency to be deluded when british fithers or andre ward are concerned!"


on what f#cking planet was froch the better sMW of the era? you're got to be rock ****** and british to think that. nobody else does


ask froch if he was a better fighter than andre ward. dude was candid about that fight not taking place when ward was active, and when ward was inactive he got brave. then ward came back and he retired

[New England]

He beat Lucian Bute when he was ranked above Ward. People seem to forget that. Pascal was undefeated and went on to become a champion at LHW. Andre Dirrel was undefeated as I said and was a great talent. Same with Abraham who hasn't been schooled like he did vs Froch by Ward or anyone else since and has defended his belt God knows how many times.

I even forgot to mention Jermain Taylor as well.

Then beat Kessler when he was ranked #2 in the division (after Ward and Froch), and went on to beat the #5 and #4 guy in Groves.

Those are his best wins and his resume is better than Ward's who's clear best wins are Froch, Kessler and Abraham. After that, it's pretty grim.

Ward's resume simply isn't as strong as Froch's but please bring up the mighty Rodriguez and weight drained Dawson. Be my guest. Or Miranda right? Sakio Bika and whoever else random guys Ward fought that you will big up like monsters.

who beat froch?