Comments Thread For: Lennox Lewis: Hagler Would Have Too Much For Golovkin

[joseph5620]

... But what about Kunta Kinte? Wouldn't have Kunta Kinte destroyed GGG as well?

I wish Gene Tunney had the balls to fight opponents who looked like Kunta Kinte.

[SugarRaRobinson]

These debates are always ******. We'll never know anyway and it's different times.

Also you have to remember a lot of retired pro's like Lennox grew up watching Hagler etc.. so they will have a sense of nostalgia about them, they are heroes to them. They are never going to say a modern fighter could have been their idols.

Just like in 20 years time, young guys now coming through the ranks looking up to Floyd or GGG or whoever will be saying fighters from 2035 could never have lived with their idols. That's just how it goes.

I'm not saying he could or couldn't beat Hagler. We would just never know and it's a fruitless debate. I'd rather debate about fights that could be proven.

Your right , absolutely fruitless , but not a debate . Why Lennox feels the need to go about blabbering obvious factoids we'll never know . But one thing we do know is that he might of well have said that he knows all life on earth is sustained by the Sun .

[Lester Tutor]

...all life on earth is sustained by the Sun .

Actually more like alcohol.

[turnedup]

Totally respect his opinion. Hell even in being told you'd lose to him just being put in the same sentence should be an honor for any fighter. I do think it's hard to compare fighters of era's because of the difference in mentality. By comparison most fighters of this era would be considered weak by yesterdays standards, and by today's standards many greats would be considered plodding brawlers. I think the only two things in boxing that are transferable between the eras are power and/or speed.

[kafkod]

and you are the king of those ggg fanboys!

[GOD-FR33]

You can do it...

Totally respect his opinion. Hell even in being told you'd lose to him just being put in the same sentence should be an honor for any fighter. I do think it's hard to compare fighters of era's because of the difference in mentality. By comparison most fighters of this era would be considered weak by yesterdays standards, and by today's standards many greats would be considered plodding brawlers. I think the only two things in boxing that are transferable between the eras are power and/or speed.

It's not hard to compare eras. Don't compare eras, compare the fighters within that era. That's what I do when finding winners/losers in fantasy fights. Fighter's have behavior patterns, like children and loved ones. They do the exact same things in every fight. For instance, it's a fact that Ali got hit with left hooks. If you have a good left hook, chances are you will land it on him. Floyd Mayweather is vulnerable to a good jab and an intelligent workrate. He would have had problems with a lot of fighters from yesteryear because of this. All you have to do, is concentrate on what each fighter does well, what they don't do well, and you can pit any two styles or fighters against each other.

[chirorickyp]

Actually more like alcohol.

Some don't like him because he could have been a hero to all and he chose to put ego over the mantle that was handed to him. He could have doubled his income if he had a message that transcended the sport. And that money would have been used for greater things that another Bentley. Awesome boxer, greatest defensive specialist ever, made lotsa money-----and that's the end of his story. Nothing else worthy to add. I'm Not a hater I actually like the guy because he's from Michigan.

[Lester Tutor]

Some don't like him because he could have been a hero to all and he chose to put ego over the mantle that was handed to him. He could have doubled his income if he had a message that transcended the sport. And that money would have been used for greater things that another Bentley. Awesome boxer, greatest defensive specialist ever, made lotsa money-----and that's the end of his story. Nothing else worthy to add. I'm Not a hater I actually like the guy because he's from Michigan.

Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s wealth is not far from over. He will get into philanthropy and become super big. He also has the capital to venture into fashion like Sean John. It's not like P Diddy in his beat production years was haute couture. Look at Air Jordan.

Great things to come from Floyd.

[Mr.Daddy]

bullsheet. haglers biggest fights were against LW,WW, JM M Spinks begged him to move up he never did. Juan Roldan was killing hagler and he had to thumb roldan in the eye badly forcing him to quit. mugabi a smaller fighter while losing ended took a lot out of haggler and after Loenard saw that he agreed to fight hagler

You better re-watch the Hagler Roldan fight. Roldan's first round knock down of Hagler was a foul: Clearly the punch hit the back of Hagler's head. In the third, when Hagler knocked down Roldan, Roldan needed the ropes to stay inside the ring. In the tenth, Hagler knocks down Roldan again, and Roldan tells the ref, Tony Perez, that he quit. Fight over. And as swollen and smashed up as Roldan's face was, he made the right decision. Yes, Roldan fought throughout the fight, but Hagler did too, was throwing the harder punches, and clearly, Roldan was taking a beating.

[dray435]

hagler was held to a draw by Vito Antuofermo and beat by bugaloo bobby watts and willie munroe not to mention SRL

Marvin dominated antufermo the first fight but was robbed the watt and monroe losses were questionable as well marvin was ill in one of those fights. He was also green. In the fight with watts he lost by MD which means one of the judges gave the fight to marvin in the opponents hometown. What does that tell you? Marvin would eventually comeback to settle the score with brutal knockouts of monroe and watts and a brutal technical knockout of antufermo. Some will also say marvin won a close decision to duran but the truth of the matter is marvin dominated that fight.


Al bernstein was the only one calling that fight right that night. It's common knowledge that marvin carried duran to insure he got big money fights with leonard and hearns. He simply didnt want to scare away the the money by crushing duran which he could have. It's also important to note that duran was a much better and more complete fighter than ggg. He was much better defensively as well. Much more difficult to hit clean.


Golovkin aint in his league. Marvin was too skilled, tough, determined and versatile for ggg. He faced every style. Bigger punchers and better boxers than golovkin and crushed them all. Golovkin brings nothing to the table that marvin hasn't seen and conquered in dominating fashion. On the other hand golovkin has never faced a fighter remotely resembling marvin. I believe marvin softens him up from the outside with the jab. Bust him up and closes the show in the mid to late rds. Or marvin simply takes the fight right to him.


If mugabi or hearns couldnt make marvin as much as blink, marvin would have virtually no respect or concerns for golovkins power. Golovkin takes fighters out with an accumulation of punches mugabi, hearns, roldan,etc, knocked fighters out cold with one punch. And hearns,leonard and duran, were far superior boxers than golovkin. Marvin could have beaten him in a few different ways. It's levels to boxing marvin was on a different level. Golovkin aint in his league. Golovkin is a good fighter but he needs to face a real threat in ward and stop fighting no hopers. And honestly he has done nothing to be compared to marvin aside from the title defenses against mediocre to average competition.