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  • #41
    I believe so.
    I think the P4P #1 spot is going to keep switching for a few years though. Once you earn it you have to keep it, right?

    One thing working for someone like Gonzalez is that he has several names around his weight class he could fight (Estrada, Inoue, Ioka, Ruenroeng, Cuadras, Arroyo, Tete, Reveco); some names better than others, obviously.
    I don't understand why nobody at Welterweight or Light Welterweight want to clean up or are trying to clean up their divisions. They have the names to do it, they just don't seem to want to. If I was Kell Brook, for example, I would start trying to fight of all these guys instead of wasting my time fighting other fighters. Then they would have a claim at a top P4P honor.
    Somebody like Walters or Lomachenko could also do some cleaning at Featherweight-Lightweight (especially 130, a really stacked division at the moment). Then they would be consideration to be one if not the best. There are a few more fighters that could potentially pop up into the conversation.

    The thing working against Ward or Kovalev is who do they fight afterwards? Will they be able to fight the Haymon fighters?

    These coming years are going to be very interesting. Unlike the Mayweather and Pacquiao era, where there was only two fighters fighting for the top spot, this coming era there will be quite a few fighters alternating spots. I'm personally excited.
    You also have to put Klitschko in there. Who has racked up a good resume and could still add a few names before he calls it a day.

    It's just something to think about.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Hougigo View Post
      Yea, 3 fight with Kov being the last of the three. Supposedly he'll be announced for the card tomorrow and maybe an opponent soon after
      I dont expect much of an opponent unfortunately.

      It will be a feel-out fight, most likely at 172 again.

      I believe that Wards future (therefore his training camp for the Smith fight) was undecided until a couple of weeks ago..... so the Smith camp was geared toward getting him back down to 168.

      So yeah, following the decision to officially move to 175 I would expect 2 low/mid-level fights to help Ward acclimate to LHW, especially before facing a dangerous opponent who is likely the best in the division.

      We could get a surprise but I doubt it.

      He is not a guy who will fight anyone, anywhere, anytime.

      Ward will take risks, but they are smart calculated risks, not reckless.

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      • #43
        The fight is not made yet, moreover we havent heard a single word from Ward for a long time, but some fanboys act like Ward already beat Kovalev. Thats why Ward is TBE, he already beat everyone in fantasy match ups.
        Last edited by From Russia; 10-18-2015, 03:27 PM.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by sicko View Post
          Yeah I agree with that. To move up on that P4P list you should have to fight other P4P Fighters!
          So basically a heavyweight could never move up the P4P list because there is rarely more than one HW on the top 10 at any time.

          P4P is not meant for the fighters on the list to fight each other. It is a THEORETICAL RANKING of how they would rank if they actually did all weigh the same and actually were able to fight each other.

          I think I need to find a boxing board with posters who actually understand the nuances of the sport.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by ryedes View Post
            he doesnt bring any money doe
            Wards making more than GGG.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by aldo5408 View Post
              Men among men and after ward beats kov hopefully stevenson will fight him and then ward becomes the lineal champ at 175
              Isn't Ward already the true lineal LHW champ? After all, he beat Dawson when Dawson held that title. I'm surprised that Ward fans have not claimed it yet.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by sicko View Post
                Yeah I agree with that. To move up on that P4P list you should have to fight other P4P Fighters!
                Possible matchups between P4P fighters are extremely rare.

                Who could Chocolatito fight ?

                Who could Golovkin fight ?

                What about Klitschko ?

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Brickyardigan View Post
                  Right now both of these fighters are in top 5 p4p. Not these other 2 hype jobs that fought last night
                  You go ask kovalev is trriple GGG is a hype job lol.....I know Sergey has felt the full power of golovkin and been carried out the ring after being knocked out in big bear a few years back....lemeuix was all hype but golovkn is a different animal to any other guy in the mddleweights

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                  • #49
                    If Wrad beats Kov then he'd make it back in the top 10 for me. If Kov beats Ward, Kov might have a claim for the top spot. That's how I see it.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                      Ward and Kovalev are in the same division now, so if Andre is as good as you say he is, there's no reason at all why he shouldn't fight Krusher.

                      It isn't going to happen though.
                      It is so obvious that fight will happen

                      Ward =/= Golovkin.

                      If Golovkin refuses to give the Cotto/Canelo winner a catchweight.....
                      ..... or if (when) Ward fights Kovalev..... you are gonna hear all about it

                      Stop painting yourself into a corner with silly unjustified comments that will absolutely come back and bite you on the ass.

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