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  • #71
    Originally posted by PRBOXINGCOTTO View Post
    Go to 168 and stop ducking ward
    The Ward that is too big for 168 and has set his sights on 175 now? Cotto's time is coming, he can't avoid GGG forever.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by mathed View Post
      Dudes will continue to defend Ward with impunity but the guy is a bully and a supercilious fake.
      What's funny to me is this guy cleaned out 168 YEARS ago and his fans don't apply the same "well he's clearly the best in the division he needs to move up" as they do to Gennady.

      Golovkin is doing the exact same thing Ward did. Ward cleaned out his division, became lineal champ, unified titles. Golovkin has unified titles and is attempting to unify the last belt and lineal title. What is the difference here? Ward never moved up (besides a 172 pound fight against Paul Smith). Difference? None.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by ИATAS View Post
        What is funny exactly? If you were a boxing manager would u have your fighter execute his mandatory position for boxing's biggest fight in Golovkin vs Canelo for all the middleweight titles OR would you have your fighter forget about that, move up in weight and sign a fight for mid to late 2016 in Ward? Lol good thing you're not a manager.
        That's far too much logic!

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        • #74
          Originally posted by ИATAS View Post
          https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-new...ey-said-no/788

          Dawson: I wanted the Ward fight at 170 lb catchweight but they said no
          Yeah, Dawson apparently changed his story after the fight.

          I’ll make the weight, no problem,” Dawson said. “I’m still eating. I told everyone I could make 168. I wasn’t saying it to sell a fight, I was saying it because I can do it. We have talked about moving to 168 for the last few years. When I finally had the opportunity to do it, I did it.”.....
          http://www.si.com/boxing/counter-pun...168-no-problem

          "168 is no problem. I don't think people remember maybe a year ago or 2 years ago, when somebody fell out of the Super Six tournament, I had the option to join the tournament, but I turned it down because I didn't want to give up my title at light heavyweight. 168 has always been in the back of my mind..... everything is coming back to me; everything. The hand speed, the different variety of combinations, you know, the foot work; everything is coming back. It's like I'm a child again, you know, playing around in the gym and just doing the things that I knew I was capable of doing. The weight loss is doing wonders for me, you know, going down to my natural weight, 168 pounds.".....
          http://www.fighthype.com/news/article13099.html

          Team Dawson specifically stated at the time, they wanted Wards title.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
            Yep you're right, Ward/Golovkin would not be a super event for Golovkin.
            Golovkin-Canelo/Cotto is 10X bigger.

            What is the rush about in seeing GGG-Ward ?

            Ward-Kovalev is also bigger than Ward-GGG. Ward beats Kovalev and he's the king of boxing, no debates about it. Kovalev is the most dangerous guy in the sport.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by techliam View Post
              Clear out 160, make your money, then move up to fight Ward, if he hasnt outgrown 168 by then

              Establish a legacy at your own weight before being undersized at 168
              Agreed. I'm a big Ward fan, and I would like to see GGG fight Ward, but to ask GGG to fight Ward before clearing out his division, doesn't make sense to me. And if Ward has outgrown his division, then he should move up, but if he can still make 168 comfortably, then stay and continue to dominate your division until you get beaten by your successor.

              People are always saying someone has outgrown a weight or need to move up just because they are the best in their division. I like to see fighters unseat the champion and I like to see unification matches. I'm getting tired of the going up in weight and catchweights now. It was cool until the built-in excuses of being drained or I didn't bring any power to this weight, etc. came to the fold. Let GGG stay where he's at. He's already 33, so he may not be able to go up.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by ИATAS View Post
                What is funny exactly? If you were a boxing manager would u have your fighter execute his mandatory position for boxing's biggest fight in Golovkin vs Canelo for all the middleweight titles OR would you have your fighter forget about that, move up in weight and sign a fight for mid to late 2016 in Ward? Lol good thing you're not a manager.
                You think Golovkin-Canelo happens before late 2017? Because as a boxing manager I would have a hard time seeing how that fights comes off quickly. I see that fight as a pipe dram where as the Ward fight could actually be real.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
                  You think Golovkin-Canelo happens before late 2017? Because as a boxing manager I would have a hard time seeing how that fights comes off quickly. I see that fight as a pipe dram where as the Ward fight could actually be real.
                  Actually, according to WBC this week, both camps have said it will be next.

                  http://www.latimes.com/sports/sports...16-story.html#

                  Ward doesn't even want GGG until late next year. He wants tune-ups.

                  GGG is waiting around for dude.

                  Not to mention it will be Canelo.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi View Post
                    Actually, according to WBC this week, both camps have said it will be next.

                    http://www.latimes.com/sports/sports...16-story.html#

                    Ward doesn't even want GGZg until late next year. He wants tune-ups.

                    GGG is waiting around for dude.
                    I don't care what they told the WBC, that was what they had to say to keep the titles intact for that one fight. After that fight occurs those words are less than meaningless.

                    What is important is how important Canelo and Cotto are to their companies, neither are getting sacrificed to Golovkin (which incidentally is why Golovkin won't fight Ward soon) just because it is a big fights. In time sure it would eventually come off but Golovkin would be getting jerked around for a long time first.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by ИATAS View Post
                      What's funny to me is this guy cleaned out 168 YEARS ago and his fans don't apply the same "well he's clearly the best in the division he needs to move up" as they do to Gennady.

                      Golovkin is doing the exact same thing Ward did. Ward cleaned out his division, became lineal champ, unified titles. Golovkin has unified titles and is attempting to unify the last belt and lineal title. What is the difference here? Ward never moved up (besides a 172 pound fight against Paul Smith). Difference? None.
                      What, you forgot about the offers to fight Froch/Chavez at 168 ?

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